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“Gravity is worth asking about”

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Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#32

Even the 'own stickers' joke doesn't really apply anymore. I recently saw ads for Apple Fitness+ and Apple Intelligence in the system settings (!, I'll forgive the ads for Apple Care). Apple Creator Studio ads in the former iWork Apps (including abusing toolbar icons for it). Finally (luckily I haven't experienced it), ads for their F1 movie in Apple Wallet. It is gross and destroys what Apple stood for. Their introd…

It looks like Apple is literally copying Samsung, and not only in hardware (upcoming foldable iPhone), but in the services and in advertising them inside the UI. Even the names are similar.

This is not a good thing. Not for Apple, and not for Android, as in terms of exerting gravity on the market, Apple is a supermassive black hole. Anything they do instantly becomes normalized as a business practice.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#33

Even the 'own stickers' joke doesn't really apply anymore. I recently saw ads for Apple Fitness+ and Apple Intelligence in the system settings (!, I'll forgive the ads for Apple Care). Apple Creator Studio ads in the former iWork Apps (including abusing toolbar icons for it). Finally (luckily I haven't experienced it), ads for their F1 movie in Apple Wallet. It is gross and destroys what Apple stood for. Their introd…

It looks like Apple is literally copying Samsung, and not only in hardware (upcoming foldable iPhone), but in the services and in advertising them inside the UI. Even the names are similar. This is not a good thing. Not for Apple, and not for Android, as in terms of exerting gravity on the market, Apple is a supermassive black hole. Anything they do instantly becomes normalized as a business practice.

Definitely. But at least on Samsung phones, you can uninstall the packages from the user partition and in that way rip most of that stuff out (like the McAfee scanner in security, Bixby, Gemini, OneDrive, etc.).

So, yeah, they are copying, but by virtue of the ecosystem being less open, you are mostly stuck with it.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#36
post #7

The minimalist approach is great until it isn't. You can cover 98% of use cases with a single button is a great motto, until you are in the other 2%. I often fail to find basic functionality in software today, because some smart product manager decided that nobody really needs it. For example, it is now often impossible to load all elements from a list and filter/sort it along basic properties.

I wouldn’t call Apple style minimalist. It was more focused on being approachable, in a way that works for both beginners and advanced users. That means something consistent, discoverable. It looks easy to get started, but has depth when needed.

If you look at or used macOS 9 and the early OS X none of that expresses minimalism

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#38
post #14

> This is why it’s important to hire and recognize people who will understand that those limitations have to be imposed arbitrarily Better get the folks that recognize users exist and are different, so instead of arbitrary mistakes UI should be tailored to a user. Case in point: > five options I have to choose from, every time, even if I never touch four of them: So the way out is to allow you to remove those 4 rathe…

There is no good middle. Either have no options, or have many and make them configurable.

I use 4 of those 5 options all the time. But there are other places where options make me slow because I need to was through them.

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#39
post #14

> This is why it’s important to hire and recognize people who will understand that those limitations have to be imposed arbitrarily Better get the folks that recognize users exist and are different, so instead of arbitrary mistakes UI should be tailored to a user. Case in point: > five options I have to choose from, every time, even if I never touch four of them: So the way out is to allow you to remove those 4 rathe…

Having the menu exist at all is already well onto the slippery slope - once upon a time the screenshots went directly into the photo library, without any interstitial at all...

And at the time, everyone was perfectly fine with opening the photo library to access the options that are now in that menu

Re: “Gravity is worth asking about”

#40
post #31

I daily drive linux (arch btw) with all the adblocking bells and whistles and I was dumbfounded when I saw my grandma's PC with all the clutter and ads. Really makes you miss the old era.

You don't even need add blocking for most open source software: the threat of forking backs a culture where the software is just there to to its job and not to sell something.

I started using the f-droid app "store" recently and it's amazing: bare bones stuff that just does what you want.

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