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All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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> All eight cameras were taken Aug. 1, according to the Winona Police Department. A patrol officer first noticed the cameras had not sent any alerts in 24 hours. When officers checked the locations, they found the cameras had been cut from their poles and taken. The poles were left behind.

Wow so they did all 8 in in 24 hours. That's quite impressive

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#92
Does anyone actually know how the data is stored? They seem to _imply_ they're not storing images, merely license plates. Oh, and presence of bumper stickers bike racks and other vehicle metadata to create a unique fingerprint. So are they implying they merely store a descriptive hash, and discard the images?

Of course, until the revenue knob needs a little tweak, and they start hashing the human data....

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#93
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days There's so much going on in that sentence! What a thing of pure PR beauty. What does "owned" mean in this sentence? Probably fairly little. What data does it even refer to? Just the actual video footage? Does the statement include derived data like license plate reads or ML models? And surely if data is flagged as relevant to an inv…

You know, unless they get a national security letter, or change their TOS, or....

Or their app was configured to let other LE agencies access it without their knowledge in violation of state law (1). Only linked one case but afaik it happened in a number of CA cities.

(1) https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/privacy/2026/02/flock-came...

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#94

> and stolen I’m sure flock’s agreement with the Winona Police Department makes clear that they are only purchasing a license to use these cameras, so in fact the department’s cameras have not been stolen at all, they’ve merely been prevented from enjoying licensed use.

> That cost falls directly on the Winona Police Department’s budget.

Nope, Flock bills out the ass for replacement cost right to the taxpayer. The grift continues!

Alternatively, "defunding the police" by way of smashing Flocks is another view point, from what I've heard.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#95
post #23

Curious about the official YCombinator stance on this extremely unpopular YCombinator-backed startup (unpopular here at HN anyway).

I believe "money good" is YC's only guiding principle. HN is a nice resource, but let's not have any illusions about the morals of the owners.

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#96
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flock data can be accessed by cops nationwide who have different (or no) restrictions on data retention or privacy compared to local police.

Flock data can be accessed by anyone. Literally. anyone. at anytime. Go see for yourselves. https://measuredcollective.com/flocks-ai-surveillance-camera...

This is false. They cannot be accessed by anyone.

> For an unknown period, at least 60 AI-powered surveillance cameras manufactured by Flock Safety were accessible to anyone on the internet.

Past tense.

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#97

So one of the public-private backdoors to erode citizen's rights is being undermined. Such a shame.

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Without a physical human operating the camera, at the site, yes, it should not be allowed.

This is actually the distinction in many EU countries, i.e. it’s allowed to record a movie if the operator is present, but doing the same thing remotely requires permission from a special authority/agency (that’s not in cahoots with the police).

Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

#98

> Police use the technology to investigate crimes such as hit-and-runs and to locate missing persons. > No suspects have been identified. Yeah, that tracks. > Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days. I assume this means that the police department deletes one local copy?

> Camera data is owned by the police department and permanently deleted after 30 days There's so much going on in that sentence! What a thing of pure PR beauty. What does "owned" mean in this sentence? Probably fairly little. What data does it even refer to? Just the actual video footage? Does the statement include derived data like license plate reads or ML models? And surely if data is flagged as relevant to an inv…

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Re: All of Winona Police Department's Flock cameras cut down and stolen

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Your comment is disgusting and goes against the spirit of freedom this country is supposed to be the embodiment of.

This ship has sailed a long time ago. If anything it's internal national propaganda. USA is known worldwide for corruption, wars, and increasingly for how bad it's own population lives while being so rich.

I know. I still try and call it out when I see it.
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