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Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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Re: Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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Post by fragmede »

Scandiravian wrote: post #87
munksbeer wrote: post #79

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My son is autistic. He massively struggles with life. I weep sometimes after some of his meltdowns, where he says he hates himself and wishes he didn't exist. We do our best, and I hope we can help him learn the correct coping mechanisms. But reading some of the posts here make me quite enraged. He has a medical condition. It is called ASD. Would I medicate him if it meant he had a better chance of living a happier l…

I'm genuinely sorry to hear that your son is struggling. I cannot comprehend how difficult and stressful that must be for you as a parent I can however speak to what it's like being autistic and what would have helped me growing up - and it's wasn't medicine I had my share of meltdowns and they were pretty much exclusively caused by being forced to fit into a rigid school system where my "weirdness" was punished by b…

As a child, if I had been taking medication that would have alleviated the sheer terror I felt when the wrong foods were touching in school that lead to a meltdown, due to being totally overstimulated, I could have navigated the school system a bit better.

Re: Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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Post by catchnear4321 »

dns_snek wrote: post #40
catchnear4321 wrote: post #38

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treating the dsm like a checklist of cures to complete sounds a bit like what might go in the dsm

If you try to reformulate that snarky one-liner that into a good faith argument you'll see how ridiculous it sounds. Yes, actually we should have treatments and cures available for anyone who wants them, for anything inside and outside the DSM.

it was a snarky one-liner made in good faith.

you put words in my mouth by suggesting i am against treatments, or cures, but that’s not really your point.

Re: Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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Post by LocalH »

_DeadFred_ wrote: post #85
LocalH wrote: post #70

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No. Parents are often the least informed and least capable of making proper medical decisions for their children.

Luckily we have doctors and trained professionals that propose the medical decisions and research that comes up with informed plans like immunization schedules.

Unfortunately we also have parents who think that is all absolute bullshit and fail to give their kids access to that medical expertise.

We also have parents who believe in "junk science" like "conversion therapy" or "vaccine avoidance".

It's not even the slightest of stretches to imagine that a child with a mild case of high-functioning autism might still get this drug because their parents don't believe in such silly terms as "neurodivergence", or worse they see it as a problem that needs fixing.

Re: Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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fragmede wrote: post #101
Scandiravian wrote: post #87

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I'm genuinely sorry to hear that your son is struggling. I cannot comprehend how difficult and stressful that must be for you as a parent I can however speak to what it's like being autistic and what would have helped me growing up - and it's wasn't medicine I had my share of meltdowns and they were pretty much exclusively caused by being forced to fit into a rigid school system where my "weirdness" was punished by b…

As a child, if I had been taking medication that would have alleviated the sheer terror I felt when the wrong foods were touching in school that lead to a meltdown, due to being totally overstimulated, I could have navigated the school system a bit better.

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Re: Drug reverses autism-like brain changes in adult mice within hours

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Post by Scandiravian »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #100
Scandiravian wrote: post #98

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It's great that you believe that asd-1 should not be fixed. Plenty of people do think we need fixing and this "cure" would be the tool they'd need for that If this does not at the minimum give pause to consider how societies historically have acted towards people who have not conformed, then I don't think you actually understand the discrimination most people with asd-1 face on a daily basis You can argue all you wan…

> "Using it to silence genuine concerns from people with asd-1 is kind of proving my point..." If you believe advocating for ASD3 means silencing ASD1 then we'll just agree to disagree, but I do appreciate the conversation.

I don't, but your argument as presented is that the concerns expressed by myself and others with asd-1 are irrelevant because a "cure" could help people with asd-3

Since people with asd-3 can't speak for themselves, others are allowed to speak for them and as a result everyone is essentially allowed to ignore the concerns of people with asd-1 as long as they hide behind representing asd-3

I've argued for asd-3 throughout, so if you respond with a disagreement, the only part you're essentially disagreeing with is my expression of concern about how it will impact asd-1. Pitting me as opposed to treatment of asd-3 is a complete and utter strawman

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