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Don't be a meat proxy

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Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#82
The problem is a lot of people ask questions that claude et al can objectively answer way better than me, and they didn’t think to ask.

Should I a) give a worse answer b) ask claude and launder it as a meat proxy or c) tell them to ask claude?

b and c piss people off but often get them to a better answer.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#83
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If you create a machine for laziness you're going to get lazy people. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?

I didn't expect wall-e to become so close to current reality

The only thing they missed was the invention of ozempic.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#84

In my life, the bigger issue are people who are not asking Claude, but asking me. Because it would take 15 minutes to find out the answer myself, and 3 minutes to let Claude find it, I ask Claude. So how should I answer? Should I disclose that I used Claude to find the answer? Or should I act like I did it myself, appearing to have super-powers that I don't possess?

If they continue doing this, delay your responses and keep them short. Don't spend more time on the response than they did on the question.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#85

In my life, the bigger issue are people who are not asking Claude, but asking me. Because it would take 15 minutes to find out the answer myself, and 3 minutes to let Claude find it, I ask Claude. So how should I answer? Should I disclose that I used Claude to find the answer? Or should I act like I did it myself, appearing to have super-powers that I don't possess?

> Or should I act like I did it myself, appearing to have super-powers that I don't possess?

Do you tell people you used a hammer to hit the nails? Do you go out of your way to explain to people that you don’t use your bare, bleeding knuckles to punch in the nails?

Give people some credit and don’t treat them like idiots.

Also don’t treat your LLM as some “super-power”, it’s just a fancy hammer and still hits your fingers if you don’t know how to use it.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s truly unhinged behavior that has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry. You always knew that 80% of the people on any team or in any large company just didn’t care. But now you see who these people are out in the open. I had a guy with more senior title say “I love the new api and cli. Is anyone working on the docs? Because I can take a crack at them” then goes to generate 12 markdown f…

My giddy aunt. Oh, for the testing required by any customer of any software vendor any time from now to forever more, as a result of the possibility of this level of irresponsible outsourcing of brain. Enshittification is a new word/concept, but it seems we've already reached the potential for enshittification squared.

Shitgularity is here, it's just unevenly smeared.

It is clear though that virtually all degradation we have is in human capital and social sphere against the background of staggering technical capability.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#87

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I just can’t understand why this is not a fireable offense. Like, I can see getting a strong warning the first time somebody notices you do this, then if you persist you’d have to be let go. Just like anybody else who is clearly not doing their job. Why would you tolerate this sort of behavior at your company?

It seems that this is largely coming from higher ups who are probably (consciously or not) testing the waters for LLMs being able to replace the people they're dumping the walls of text on. I don't mean in any sort of malicious penny pinching scheme either, but simply people wanting to be able to do things quickly and as close to their own demands as possible, while getting rid of the 'middle man.' It just so happens…

My experience is it’s over eager engineers who we would have historically considered not strong who suddenly feel able to contribute in a different way

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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If you create a machine for laziness you're going to get lazy people. It's only going to get worse I'm afraid. Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?

it's already happening. IQ is already stagnating or even going down

IQ is calibrated so that the average IQ is 100. If the average IQ is going down, something has gone very wrong somewhere

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#89

The real reason people do it: 1. It's quick 2. It's not their problem anymore because they've replied. No amount of hand-wringing is going to change that.

And nobody gives a fuck at work anymore.

Directives want results, positive numbers and growth. How well done is and the queality of the product is something trivial.

Until february/april I was super dead serious about the quality of my apps and my code, I was super strict and always looking for excellence and quality. But people were delivering shit faster than me and someone who doesnt give a fuck about anything of this just got promoted. So now i just let opencode do my work while I watch and play dota in the background. I deliver faster and nobody has ever talked about quality of my code or the ellegance of it.

I still programming by hand in my personal projects, but in corporative projects? Fuck it, i'll let the llm do my job until it lasts and Ill watch the world burn.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

#90

In my life, the bigger issue are people who are not asking Claude, but asking me. Because it would take 15 minutes to find out the answer myself, and 3 minutes to let Claude find it, I ask Claude. So how should I answer? Should I disclose that I used Claude to find the answer? Or should I act like I did it myself, appearing to have super-powers that I don't possess?

You still need to verify that the answer that Claude gave is not hallucinated. That will also cost you some more time.

If the answer is wrong and people trust your judgement, then they will take a lot longer to figure out, that your answer is not to be relied upon.

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