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Don't be a meat proxy

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Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by dofm »

evil-olive wrote: post #32
exac wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://phys.org/news/2023-03-online-iq-scores-century.html https://doi.org/10.1016/j.intell.2023.101734

that's a study published in 2023, analyzing data that ended in 2018.

Right but the question was:

"Do you guys think we're going to see a de-evolution of human beings due to technology?"

Not LLMs specifically.

Insofar as I believe there is value in IQ tests, this is a technology-driven effect, most likely due to the impact of distraction and search result immediacy on sustained thinking.

IQs used to just rise, year on year, because living in the world required more and more of the thinking that IQ tests measure. And now they don't.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by wgd »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #45
suslik wrote: post #28

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> and it spit out this 300 line response. Can you read it for me and see if it’s right? If I get a request like this on a day when I don't feel sufficiently quixotic, I say sure and just put it through an LLM myself - if they don't bother to re-read it, why should I? This does not have a great promise for a future of work, of course. Also, in my teams, I explicitly tell people not to do that.

I wonder if there is something like nohello.net but norawllmoutput.net

There is https://noslopgrenade.com/

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by 64e23275635e »

dupontcyborg wrote: post #17
64e23275635e wrote: post #15

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it's already happening. IQ is already stagnating or even going down

i’m not doubting this, but do you know if there are any studies on this already?

I am the lazy human today, but this one is listing a few references:

https://www.pressenza.com/2025/07/the-decline-of-the-intelli...

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by ffsm8 »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #8

I deal with this all day long at work and it’s exhausting. People almost acting like no one has thought of it “I asked Claude what happened, and it spit out this 300 line response. Can you read it for me and see if it’s right?” What kills me is you might expect this from a busy high level manager that doesn’t really understand the technical details and they just point the AI to an error they got. They don’t know how…

At my dayjob there is a person spearheading ai across the enterprise.

They generated lots of documentation across the whole stack and now makes all PO/BAs read it if it's correct. So not just 300 lines - he unironically generated thousands of lines of "documentation" and is now making hundreds of people review it for him

Complete brainrot

Au psychosis is getting seriously outrageous at this point

Thankfully I'm a dev and thus aren't in the blast radius of that genius idea

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by 64e23275635e »

deepsummer wrote: post #39
Maxious wrote: post #21

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So if you used claude you would preface with "Claude said: "

Sometimes I do that. The problem is that it makes them look bad.

In the end it's really just the same thing as with stackoverflow answers. If you knew how to combine certain keywords for an answer you were searching for, then it took you like 5 seconds to find the relevant SO answer for that. Even then people got mad about it 'why can't they just search themselves if it's so easy to find?' - well, maybe it's not that easy and obvious to a lot of people and that will get even worse now

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by weatherlite »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #30
richforrester wrote: post #13

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Had a senior exec pick up his phone, punch some words into AI, then as-it-was-generating-a-response flip it around and put it in front of me. This shit has progressed well past seriousness and into the absurd

It’s truly unhinged behavior that has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry. You always knew that 80% of the people on any team or in any large company just didn’t care. But now you see who these people are out in the open. I had a guy with more senior title say “I love the new api and cli. Is anyone working on the docs? Because I can take a crack at them” then goes to generate 12 markdown f…

> has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry

The effect is less pronounced in other industries but they're gonna catch up. Might take a decade for some of them , perhaps even 20 years for the rare ones like nursing but the trend is quite clear.

Re: Don't be a meat proxy

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

eddythompson80 wrote: post #30
richforrester wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had a senior exec pick up his phone, punch some words into AI, then as-it-was-generating-a-response flip it around and put it in front of me. This shit has progressed well past seriousness and into the absurd

It’s truly unhinged behavior that has me questioning how much longer I want to remain in the industry. You always knew that 80% of the people on any team or in any large company just didn’t care. But now you see who these people are out in the open. I had a guy with more senior title say “I love the new api and cli. Is anyone working on the docs? Because I can take a crack at them” then goes to generate 12 markdown f…

My giddy aunt.

Oh, for the testing required by any customer of any software vendor any time from now to forever more, as a result of the possibility of this level of irresponsible outsourcing of brain.

Enshittification is a new word/concept, but it seems we've already reached the potential for enshittification squared.

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