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Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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"Dangers" may indeed be hyped up for marketing purposes or domestic regulatory-capture motives. But as Xi stated, they will become real. It is just a question of being unaffected by the motives of the speakers, which is what adults learn to do.

replying the request for sources with "as xi stated" without bringing the sources again is quite misleading. It seems you have nothing to back what you are saying.

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Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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"Dangers" may indeed be hyped up for marketing purposes or domestic regulatory-capture motives. But as Xi stated, they will become real. It is just a question of being unaffected by the motives of the speakers, which is what adults learn to do.

> But as Xi stated, they will become real. But the speech doesn't say that? I'm looking at the full text. For example: > We should take seriously the various types of inherent and secondary risks that AI may trigger. The risk portion of the speech is focused more on application-level risks than model capabilities. Which is a much more sensible regulatory framing than what Silicon Valley has proposed.

The claim that the speech was somehow supporting open weights was pure Western imposition. China does not support open weights generally, and Xi makes plain that some systems of weights - perhaps still future - would have inherent risks, same as Amodei says of Mythos, whether or not he is bull_ing about it.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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I use deepseek for a lot of my personal day-to-day agent needs, and I will simply put this here and let this speak for itself, last 30 days: - Cost: $4.55USD - API requests: 3,467 - Tokens: 323,183,886 And as an engineer who leads a small team, I have very high standards for quality, and these carry across to my personal projects where I use deepseek. It has not disappointed at all for coding or review tasks. For eve…

DeepSeek is amazing, they are, from a cost/benefit literally an order of magnitude or more better than the 'SOTA' models, and yet no one really talks about them.

I'm using them for my micro-saas, and they have made my niche economically profitable where as SOTA models are only slightly better for massively increased expense. Its truly impressive.

Word of advice to anyone, not all your use of LLM tech needs to be code/dev work related.

We are entering 'Web 4.0 era' or whatever you want to call it. Massive transformations of nearly every single business will and are being developed as the cost of intelligence as a commodity is falling through the floor...

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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Have you completed the identity verification? It's much more lenient once you have

Weird, I'm using 5.6 Sol through Chinese resellers and it reverse engineers stuff just fine

That's hilarious that Anthropic and OpenAI can't even secure their products from Chinese resellers, how are they supposed to secure their models from being distilled?

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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This is more exciting than k3, IMO. Dsv4 models are extremely cheap to serve. Improving their capabilities has lots of downstream effects, as it becomes "good enough" for more and more tasks. DS was serving the pro version at extremely low prices for a long time, and they've had integrations with opencode & other providers, so they likely gathered a lot of data from real developers doing real tasks (on openrouter the…

> Whatever capabilities they get, can be used "forever" going forward. "Forever" gets the scare quotes because it is implied only up until the Butlerian Jihad?

I upvoted you just for the Dune reference.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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Weird, I'm using 5.6 Sol through Chinese resellers and it reverse engineers stuff just fine

I think I’m missing something, what do you mean Chinese resellers? As I understand it, it’s difficult to even access OpenAI in China, how could they be reselling it? Do you mean something like openrouter but a Chinese version or something?

Proxies/vpns to enter/exit comms through non-banned countries.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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OpenRouter?

No, platform.deepseek.com for me! The caching is super important, not sure how open router performs, I haven't tried it.

Works out of the box with OpenRouter for most models. Some providers are a bit flaky, but DeekSeek (provider) has been one of the most reliable for me, no problems hitting >99% CH.

Re: DeepSeek-V4-Flash Update

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> Whatever capabilities they get, can be used "forever" going forward. "Forever" gets the scare quotes because it is implied only up until the Butlerian Jihad?

I upvoted you just for the Dune reference.

I feel like once they make a mega successful movie of a book we can stop doing the secret handshake.
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