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I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore
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#403Earlier quoted context omitted.
They are not trolling. They are stating the simple, undeniable fact that there is more than enough to go around and if we had a more equitable distribution of resources, we could take care of everyone with disabilities 10x over with plenty to spare.
The only reason there's more than enough to go around is people work for the betterment of their own life. If you disconnect the link between work and material comfort that simple, undeniable fact will no longer be fact.
Tou've said it perfectly.
Last time when link between work and material comfort was disconnected was communism.
It looked good on paper from 1920's perspective, but was a downward spiral.
If we are to be functioning society, people need motivation to do their best ... and then, there's some spare wealth for the unfortunate.
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#404Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yet, you seemed to have been using it the way the rest of us are in this discussion, right here: You are worth so much more than your productivity. I think the issue here is that everyone else is having a discussion about economics, how we efficiently allocate scarce resources as a society, and the role that individual productivity plays in that allocation. You're having a discussion about enjoying your life. Whi…
Even if you're bad at productivity, even in the sense of producing enjoyment, you're still worth so much more. My OP was explicitly about not taking economic productivity as the be-all-end-all of someone.
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#405> If your worth is not determined by your productivity, then what remains of you underneath it all? Everything else. You are worth so much more than your productivity. I'm glad I never got sucked into the protestant work ethic, since defining yourself based on your labour and the value you generate from that sounds woefully narrow-minded (this doesn't feel like quite the right word, but close enough). It's probably h…
Who produces the food you eat, the clothes you wear, the house you live in, the energy you use, the medicine you consume, etc. while you airily define ‘productivity’ as reading the classics and spending time with friends?
There is more than enough excess labor that farmers, seamstresses, power plant workers, and everybody else could have more time to have their own self-defined productivity too. The idea that people need to be working nonstop to survive in organized society is nonsense. Labor has been growing in excess since atleast the bronze age, and likely significantly earlier, and in just the last 50 years we have increased productivity 2 orders of magnitude further. Even if we assumed people 20,000 years ago worked 16 hours a day 365 days a year to survive, and that the needs of the people grew 1000x over, we still would have plenty of spare man hours to spread among everybody. The fact that many people now live entirely off capital holdings and others struggle to find work is proof that people should be having far more free time for themselves across the board.
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#406I was raised as a Buddhist and in Buddhism it says that the biggest wealth you can have in your life is good health. Most of us take it for granted, that how lucky we are to born without a disability and can function doing daily tasks like taking a shower, going to the toilet without the help of someone else. I cannot imagine how difficult life would be with a disability and even thinking about it makes me anxious
I've spent 6 weeks on wheelchair and few more months on crutches after a nasty paragliding accident. The concept of just standing upright and walking straight, that we take for granted as much as 2+2=4, was suddenly impossible, and after getting it eventually back through extensive physiotherapy its something I cherish to this day. The freedom it grants is unimaginable unless one was robbed of it. Simply reaching on higher shelves to get some food became impossible without help.
Bad things have often silver lining if one is looking with right kind of eye.
Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore
#407It's simple, what is written here should be part of basic education for every human being/worker. For all who mis-interprent the post and focus only on the anti capitalistic view of it, don't worry your body will tell you soon! Keep an eye for the signals, gut and digestive issues, back stuck and oain, sleeping problems, light sensitivity and irritability. When this will start remember that the problem is probably yo…
Fortunately, just about all of those are the result of slow poisoning via industrialized food sources. And can be remedied via diet. It's not fun wanting chili fries and having to eat eggs and home-made yogurt instead. But it's working in my case and I have the labs to prove it.
unfortunately wrong diet is just another consequence of the bad life loop.
claiming that is a just a result of industrial food is quite bold, even if yes thats probably cause of many many problems for humans.
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#409Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Who produces the food you eat, the clothes you wear, the house you live in, the energy you use, the medicine you consume, etc. The able do. The disabled would love to work hard and earn a nice paycheck. It's a privilege to be able to work and be in good health. Hopefully you don't have to learn that the hard way.
A privilege, really? Who bestows that privilege? I am certainly sympathetic to people who are genuinely disabled. That doesn’t mean we have to lie to ourselves that they are being productive by sitting around reading books.
And yet, the lifestyles of some of the greatest minds were basically taking leisurely walks and reading / writing letters (Einstein). The other day there was Ian Fleming's daily routine - have a walk, sit on the beach, have a drink / dinner, oh and do some writing in between.
People can contribute value AND have a comfortable life. That's the ideal. We (in the west) fought hard to limit how much employers can exploit us, else we'd still be doing 12 hours / 6 days work weeks. And the economy / society didn't collapse.
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#410This is a very sad story, especially on the health side.
But rhe fact they keep going on about capitalism demonstrates their main problem. In reality we don't live in capitalism or neoliberalism, but a space where government legislation and taxation determines most things, and if you think more of the same is going to magically solve things, you've been sold a pup. It's hard to start a business (capitalism) mainly because of government economic control.
At best we have a situation where the top companies and government have converged with one another and co-operate whether through the World Economic Forum or otherwise.
The digital ID thing we see just now is driven by governments worldwide.