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I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

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Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#101

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This is how it has always been throughout history (and still is in most parts of the world). Individual is part of nuclear family, nuclear family is part of extended family, extended family is part of tribe, etc. When one part is in need, the others jump in to help.

> throughout history Ancient egypt? Roman times? Medieval times? Byzantine times? Pre-colonial Philippines? Pre-colonial America? I think it may have started in the late 1800s at the earliest. I would need a bit more evidence to be convinced that your model of individual to nuclear to extended etc has been a thing longer than a few centuries, vs the vast majority of human life experience being in nomadic hunter-gathe…

The Odyssey is in theaters right now; it rather famously deals with the importance of family and that's a close to 3000 year old poem.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#102
> Much of modern Western culture, particularly in the United States, was shaped by what sociologist Max Weber called the Protestant work ethic: the belief that hard work, discipline, frugality, and productivity were signs of virtue.

I hail from a culture that's decidedly Catholic, but at the same time shares this mindset.

To me it has more to do with farming and the culture around it.

On a farm you have to earn your keep and there's no space for "freeloaders". You work all day, every day and don't complain.

Attitudes are very different in places where there was a significant urban class in the renaissance era already.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#103

I bristle a bit when it comes to discussing productivity an an ill that is _specific_ to capitalism. It's certainly an ill of capitalism as well, but I don't know many other systems where productivity is not valued and lack of productivity does not come with downsides. As another commenter has pointed out, the surest ally in this case is family. Not all families are tight, but families are largely the ones who will t…

There's nothing wrong with valuing productivity and unvaluing unproductivity, but capitalism fetishizes it to the extreme, kills people who don't have it, and defines the One True Productivity that you have to meet to not be killed. A lot of artists suffer from this last point where they are being productive but not in ways that capitalism values.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#104

The author lays most of this at the feet of capitalism, and I agree that the system has excesses that have contributed to the atomization of society, which can cause people to slip through the cracks, but...has any other system been obviously _better_ at supporting those with disabilities? Did feudalism or communism do this better? (I think about the "worst system, except for all the other systems" quote often)

Even just capitalism with more regulation and safety nets (the ones most countries implement don't work very well) would suffice here.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#105

The idea that "hard work, discipline, frugality" are Calvinist and Protestant inventions may be the most preposterous thing I've read today. As if the rest of the world or previous eras valued self-indulgence and wasteful lavishness. Or that an unproductive member of society wasn't always scorned or at least viewed negatively by those having to produce.

https://www.britannica.com/money/Protestant-ethic

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#106
post #93

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We don't care about your personal preferences to make policy though.

Yes in democracy we do

No, making policy out of your personal preferences is a dictatorship. Making policy by taking a representative majority of preferences is a democracy.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#107

If you read this article and feel worried about your financial situation if you become disabled, you might look into long-term disability insurance (LTD). It's a policy where, if you become disabled to the point where you can't work, it pays out $X per month, every year until you're 65. And if you're partly disabled and have to cut back your hours, some policies compensate you for those lost wages. These LTD policies…

Wouldn't it be marvelous if these were mandatory and paid by state with huge scale benefits ?

Worker's compensation is similar, and that actually is mandatory for employers to offer in most US states. But IIUC, that's only for injuries that are caused by your job in some way?

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#108
post #74

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Look at all those people worldwide “electing” to spend their money to feed and shelter themselves and their families with barely anything else left afterwards. The should’ve elected otherwise! It’s insane how some people here are disconnected from the realities of the majority of people worldwide. All those years of education and the infinite access to information and still it’s an enigma to them the fact that the ma…

You can speak for yourself, because you know nothing about my background and your ideological bias leads you to embarrassing assumptions. My family until my parents generation were dirt poor in one of those countries you would also call piss poor.

So you got lucky, thought it was because you were a genius and now you think everyone who didn't get lucky is just stupid.

A common thinking pattern. To prove it's luck, though, your great-grandchildren will be poor again - that always happens - they say rags to rags in three generations.

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#109
post #41

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> For someone who has been born disabled, the conversation should be moved to the people who brought them to life and are responsible for their survival. Please explain exactly what you are suggesting or advocating for here.

I mean that the people who brought the person to life are responsible to make choice that will ensure theirs long term survival. e.g my grandmother had a brother who their brain stopped developing at a very young age (afaik 5), the parents ensured and my grandmother ensured that my uncle lived a full (but sadly difficult) life living and been taken care of by them and then my grandma after they passed.

So what does that actually mean in reality?

Re: I'm 38 and I Can't Support Myself Anymore

#110

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> "you made bad decisions in the past so now you deserve cruelty" Somebody will have to endure cruelty when someone makes bad decisions. The question is whether the cruelty will be received by the person making the bad decision or somebody else. > It's rarely "you are making a bad decision right now so you should stop that before you deserve cruelty in the future". So it's the economic system's fault that you weren't…

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Ad-hominem is what you resort to when having no argument ;)
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