Stop Killing the Internet: No Digital ID and No Age Verification

Post by dTal » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 12:27 AM UTC

yorwba wrote: post #170

atmosx wrote: post #105

There is a surprising amount of engineers who don’t understand what’s happening. So they deal with it as if it’s a funny thing… yeah if two police officers come knocking your door with hard data, you will just explain… and yeah, I mean kids, can bypass it… right? Wrong. This is not 1995. They can make very harsh laws and they can make it borderline impossible to bypass should some authority choose to do so. The dange…

The last time I had police knocking at my door, it was a lot more than two, and they were readying their battering ram when I opened, and then immediately swarmed me and told me to sit down, and then I just explained and they realized their warrant was for a different address and they left. It was scary in the moment, but I never had a gun pointed at me and I wasn't even touched, so overall it left me with a rather p…

Post by hnav » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 1:29 AM UTC

hunterpayne wrote: post #141

hnav wrote: post #36

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They control the last mile of the Internet so it would require satellite networking run by another country to cut them out like this.

If only there was some free speech absolutist who had their very own satellite Internet company. I must be forgetting someone... PS The dishes are hard (but not impossible) to hide.

Post by Geezus_42 » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 1:48 AM UTC

hunterpayne wrote: post #117

nemomarx wrote: post #108

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what's the current solution that's impossible for kids to bypass with a borrowed or stolen id, say? I don't see any proposals yet that will actually work for what they say they'll do.

You want a proposal? Make a kids-only set of sites. And then make hardware/software that can access only those sites. Make sure existing and future "non-kid" hardware can't access those kids-only sites. You can allow companies to register that they are one of these kid friendly sites with the additional regulation that would entail. Then make a kid having hardware that can access the normal Internet like having a bee…

Post by intrasight » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 2:13 AM UTC

adiabatichottub wrote: post #183

urbandw311er wrote: post #169

The physical world has age checks when kids attempt to enter a premises with dangerous or unsuitable content - eg bars, casinos, strip joints. These seem largely accepted as a good thing. Why do so many seem to feel that the same protections are so outrageous when applied in the virtual world? Honest question, I can see both sides.

It's just a different game. A web site is much easier to instrument than a physical place. Say I go to a bar, I show my ID to the bouncer. My identity isn't recorded (unless they scan it with a device that records the scan data). Maybe they have cameras, my image isn't immediately associated with my identity, somebody would have to do a bit of work to connect the two. Maybe I pay with a credit card, now my name is st…

Post by cindyllm » Wed, Jul 29, 2026, 2:14 AM UTC

datakan wrote: post #192

buzer wrote: post #165

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That's legalization setback, not court setback.

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