Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models • Hacker News Board

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by Stevvo » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 5:05 AM UTC

storus wrote: post #242

daymanstep wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Human in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autonomous drones. That's the only real solution to jamming.

No, they are using long optical cables attached to drones. The battlefield looks like a giant spider web afterwards.

Fiber optic drones were last year's weapon of choice, this year it is drones with autonomous terminal phase. This happened because the AI data center build-out increased demand for fiber optics, driving up the price to less affordable levels. Autonomous terminal phase is also more effective; ~80% mission success compared to ~30% for fiber optic drone.

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by kpw94 » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 5:09 AM UTC

> OpenAI and Anthropic, which are gearing up for potentially massive IPOs, did not sign the letter.

Not anymore, OpenAI did sign it:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/top...

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 5:31 AM UTC

daymanstep wrote: post #220

adastra22 wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They never did that. They said all they required was a human in the loop for kill decisions. No autonomous kill drones.

Human in the loop is infeasible in comms denied areas which is what we have in Ukraine/Russia right now. It's why Ukraine and Russia are now using fully autonomous drones. That's the only real solution to jamming.

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Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by thimbleberry » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 5:36 AM UTC

in english:

nvidia: dont regulate, more models means we get to sell more GPUs. microsoft: dont regulate, open weight models might be our best bet, since we dont have any good inhouse models meta: dont regulate, we bought a load of GPUs and dont know what to with them, may be we can rent them out to run open weight models.

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by antonvs » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 6:13 AM UTC

Robdel12 wrote: post #210

https://www.anthropic.com/news/donation-public-first-action Probably because anthropic is pouring $40 million dollars into a political pact to regulate models. And they have not been quiet about wanting to ban/regulate OSS models either. I have no idea why HN still treats them like ~their~ they are the ethical good guy. Edit: I can’t English. At least we know this came from my dumb swishy brain

*squishy

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by firemelt » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 6:22 AM UTC

now open ur driver on linux

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by perbu » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 7:00 AM UTC

xur17 wrote: post #223

novaleaf wrote: post #141

Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

> (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response) Same experience with Anthropic's. I applied for my employer, and.. 0 response.

We got it.

I can't say it has helped much, though. Fable is still completely useless for securing code. Opus does an OK job, though.

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by yako21000 » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 7:10 AM UTC

novaleaf wrote: post #141

Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

How much do both cost together? Claude Code alone is 200 bucks a month... I'm satisfied with the 100 buck subscription for now with headroom

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by rmast » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 7:31 AM UTC

novaleaf wrote: post #141

Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

Was it applying to the program for an organization or individual? The description for the individual application page makes it sound pretty straightforward compared to getting access for an organization.

Re: Nvidia, Microsoft, Meta warn against overregulating open-weight models

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Post by Agingcoder » Sat, Jul 25, 2026, 8:42 AM UTC

novaleaf wrote: post #141

Some irony: I subscribe to Claude and Codex (20x plans), and now Kimi. Why Kimi? because K3 is the only frontier model I can have a serious conversation with about my product's security. (I did apply for OpenAi's Cyber Pilot but got no response)

Yeah I tried to have a conversation about security yesterday with Claude and it immediately stopped me - I was taken aback, I didn’t expect it at all.

This is highly problematic.