Hats off to the folks behind this for keeping such a cool project alive! This, ReactOS, and TempleOS have been my answer to the question of: "what should I install if I'm looking for something interesting?" for at least a decade. Obviously for vastly different reasons.
Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
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Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#32Looks like this may have been based on the nillerusr Source engine, which is based on a 2020 leak of the Source sources. nillerusr's engine has also been used to port some Valve games to Android.
I wish Valve would take a cue from id and release the source code to Source and/or at least GoldSrc under an open license. Though I have a hard time imagining them opening up code to more lucrative games like Team Fortress Classic or Counter-Strike classic. Nice dream though...
Old-ish Source has a pretty generous license, no? https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/blob/master... GoldSrc is there somewhere as well. I’m definitely grateful for it. I’ve read some of it myself and watched a bunch of Youtube about it.
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish Valve would take a cue from id and release the source code to Source and/or at least GoldSrc under an open license. Though I have a hard time imagining them opening up code to more lucrative games like Team Fortress Classic or Counter-Strike classic. Nice dream though...
Why should Valve give up their leverage. They actively pick and choose who they license the engine to.
Realistically there isn't really any commercial value left in it though. While there were some notable unique games made with it (Titanfall 1 & 2, E.Y.E, The Stanley Parable, etc), these were made over a decade ago and the majority of games made with it are reworks/mods/adaptations of Half-Life related material.
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/List_of_third-party...
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#34But can it run Crysis?
Under Wine? Yes.
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> He doesn't seem to have in-depth knowledge of how software and drivers work I don't really think the point of his videos is to go into that level of detail. I think I'm someone who could understand that level of detail but I still watch his videos anyway since they're fun and engaging (same with others like Michael MJD), and have other YouTube channels that I might watch for more technical dives.
It's genuinely possible to do informative, fun and engaging videos on a niche OS; it does require a lot of skill and effort to pull off he does not have. His content has been way too shallow. There's a lot more to an OS than just the Desktop Environment being different, and 'Can it run Minecraft' (with missing/broken drivers he doesn't understand).
Perhaps it’s too much of a reoccurring gimmick but his videos are squarely in the “tech-aware consumer” user profile, not a pro developer or editor. It’s like how LGR does retrospectives and deep-dives on hardware from a purely hobbyist-enthusiast customer perspective.
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#36I think HL2 on portable 5W ARM linux is more interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl1nrDvmiII
I wanted to say, 5 watts, doesn't HL2 already run on Raspberry Pi? But then I realized, this thing seems to be powered by some kind of rpi? https://www.clockworkpi.com/product-page/uconsole-kit-rpi-cm... That's pretty cool though, do you have a video of it running on the device itself?
This is captured+streamed on the device with ffmpeg, but mobile phone video no.
Got a short of my own engine though: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LKYX7E3A0Dk
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#37What I find depressing is because of idiotic Linux policies, it turns out nvidia hardware is easier to run on a 3rd party OS than hardware with otherwise fully open source drivers like Radeon. This is just yet another example that you may think things in the hardware world have changed now that Linux "rules", but they have not.
What do you mean? BSDs have tons of code lifted from the Linux amdgpu driver.
They are literally the only one who has managed to do it,, and they do so by having a huge layer of compatibility that takes years to update to new versions and support newer generations. We do not know if it would be easier for BSD to support nvidia either ... because they already have nvidia drivers (released by nvidia itself).
On the other hand here we have a random guy that adds support for nvidia gpus, by himself, on a non-linux, non-bsd kernel. And specifically claims he will not do the radeon one because he finds it too much work.
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#38I think HL2 on portable 5W ARM linux is more interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl1nrDvmiII
I know it's not as cool but the Steam Deck can run HL2 at just as low power consumption with its AMD APU.
"A normal Steam Deck consumes about 4 to 7 watts of total system power when idling on the home screen with low screen brightness."
Maybe HL2 brings zero overhead to idle then?
Anyway X86 is the past, risc-v is so completely lost into eternal future... only ARM really works right now.
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#39What I find depressing is because of idiotic Linux policies, it turns out nvidia hardware is easier to run on a 3rd party OS than hardware with otherwise fully open source drivers like Radeon. This is just yet another example that you may think things in the hardware world have changed now that Linux "rules", but they have not.
What makes it easier?
See the first message of TFA. The author complains that amdgpu has way too many linuxisms that make it impractical to port it to non-Linux ( unless you are already emulating Linux). On the other hand, the nv kernel driver is portable, up to the point that it is easier to port that to Haiku and then change the entire Mesa to use it than it is to port amdgpu (which wouldn't need Mesa changes).
Re: Half-Life 2 running natively on HaikuOS
#40Nifty to see... I always liked BeOS/Haiku from a tech perspective, but really don't care nearly as much for the UX or ergonomics... I really like a lot of the Windows 10 start menu and taskbar, but I do hate the MS search results/ads,etc so I switched to Linux for non-work and mostly Cosmic since later alphas.
The UX has always been my favorite part. It's like some mixup of OS/2 and Classic Mac OS
Reminds me a bit more of Amiga... that said, I just don't like the "handle" on the windows, and the launcher is a bit odd imo.