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Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI
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Sounds familiar, I used to think the same about the Internet and free software. Turned out, the old world digested the unstoppable march of progress just fine.
Is that why Linux failed? Just imagine the world in which an open source kernel dominated almost every compute market on the planet!
You mean, a world where we could modify the OS and drivers on our phones?
Re: Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI
#553"The Bitterness of Poor Quality Remains Long After the Sweetness of a Low Price is Forgotten" Benjamin Franklin
But you don't need an F1 car for a grocery run
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#554Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm only counting 3 frontier models in the U.S.… Oh, Claude tells me Llama and Grok might count.
Grok is a terrific model and my work horse. I hope Composer 3 reaches at least this level because Grok 4.5 intelligence + composer type speed pfffff, wild times ahead.
I think Grok is replacing composer now yeah? Fast mode is similar speed to composer.
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#555Re: Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI
#556Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ask yourself, who seems to be the destabilizing force if you take a step back and look at the state of things objectively? There is some blame on all sides for sure, not saying it's black and white...but come on.
Almost all current world events as of now are directly tied to the fact that the west is in active freakout mode over china building a army large enough to attack the entire world. Iran and venuzuela are a direct response to it. 1. China is actively genociding an entire ethnic people. 2. They are actively building a military larger and faster than any country on earth in all of history. 3. They are actively threateni…
You left out the bodypart business they are now in too.
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#557Living outside of the US (and EU). I’m in the process of launching an agent assisted automated pentesting and authorized offensive security service. I’m using open weights models to execute the entire audit. So lets for a moment entertain the idea that the US somehow locks open weights. How are they going to stop such audits or actual attackers? A competing service in the US simple won’t be able to execute the same l…
Simple. If they put your company on something like the entity list that Huawei is on, nobody is going to work with you, public or private.
The US government can even force non-US banks from other countries to report oversea US citizens' income to the IRS, what makes you think they don't have the power or enforcement method to stop US-based entities from working with you?
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#558Earlier quoted context omitted.
But distillation is not theft. They are paying for the usage of the API. It is also not copyright infringement, as AI companies do not hold the copyright for the output of their models.
> But distillation is not theft. Legally no, but I think an honest reading of the 'fair use' statute doesn't actually pass the 'doesn't compete with the author's original work' aspect of fair use, even if the use is transformative.
Fair use? Anthropic does not own the copyright to the output of their LLMs. Fair use does not enter into it at all.
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#559Re: Startup founders urge U.S. government not to shut off Chinese open weight AI
#560I‘m not even sure what the argument for banning Chinese models/open weights even is supposed to be? 1. if it’s to stop hackers doing hacking things with „uncontrollable models“ then, well… they’re already doing something illegal to begin with, why would they care about breaking another law running these models? 2. if it’s to stop foreign actors, then that ban would not apply to them anyway 3. it’s not stopping distil…
This is less so a hedge against Chinese labs catching up to the frontier/OAI Anthropic falling in valuation, and more a hedge against a complete recession. We are overleveraged in AI investment and if tomorrow any Chinese Lab can drop a model at the frontier what was the point of all those billions. Now, if you can protect the American model from the bubble popping even for just long enough to hedge risk a little better, then you may just prevent collapse. The problem is though, that the market is heavily irrational right now and if anything this may just be the signal to investors to double down on American AI.