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New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

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Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

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Non-ECC memory. And into the trash it goes. Refer to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48969530

the thing about ECC memory is that it doesn't support reporting of ECC errors, so it ends up just hiding the fact that your RAM has started to go bad. this is good if you replace RAM every n years, but not if you intend to use the RAM until it starts degrading.

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

#42

I understand their reasoning but it’s still a shame Framework opted for a proprietary motherboard instead of mini-ITX with a socket CPU and GPU. I value repairability over a little bit of extra performance.

Framework is going for a computer OEM market where they need to make margin, hence the soldered-on components and relatively limited options. People in the pre-built computer market overwhelmingly don't care about replaceable components, because anyone else will just buy components and build a PC, for both the greater market of options AND overall lower price than buying pre-built (if they don't overspec).

You literally can't make this machine without soldered components. You don't understand this computer's design goals. It's been 1.5 years since they announced the Framework Desktop. I don't get how people are still confused about this.

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

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post #37
post #18

Ryzen AI Max Plus Pro 495 How does a CEO read this and not immediately fire their entire marketing team?

AI means it has npu, Max+ is marking the memory channel, PRO is a normal label for chips that have extra security baked in, it has been this way since forever. I don't see anything wrong with the name.

I choose to believe this comment is satire.

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

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I have a framework desktop w/ 128GB that I bought last Christmas and if I’m looking at it right it costs $2000 (CAD) more now because of the RAM shortage (and in any event is apparently out of stock). Would love to have 192 GB but I’m not sure I can justify buying another. Does anyone have a sense of how this might progress, e.g if I can get a 256 or 512 GB in a year if I wait. In any case I’m jealous this exists and…

Likewise here, my setup costs 2k+ more eur as well. Given that memory bandwidth remains the same I don't think it's worth buying if you have the 1st gen framework desktop. Usecase caveats apply.

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

#46
post #38
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI means it has npu, Max+ is marking the memory channel, PRO is a normal label for chips that have extra security baked in, it has been this way since forever. I don't see anything wrong with the name.

You literally answered what is wrong with the name.

They did not, can you explain what do you mean?

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

#47

I understand their reasoning but it’s still a shame Framework opted for a proprietary motherboard instead of mini-ITX with a socket CPU and GPU. I value repairability over a little bit of extra performance.

IIRC, Framework did ask AMD to explore a more repairable approach with socketable CPU and RAM for these chips and they did but came back and said it wouldn't perform well enough that way.

Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory

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post #46
post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You literally answered what is wrong with the name.

They did not, can you explain what do you mean?

For those of us with feebler minds than you or him, the name is just full of qualifiers that make no sense.
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