New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
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Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#2I have a framework desktop w/ 128GB that I bought last Christmas and if I’m looking at it right it costs $2000 (CAD) more now because of the RAM shortage (and in any event is apparently out of stock). Would love to have 192 GB but I’m not sure I can justify buying another.
Does anyone have a sense of how this might progress, e.g if I can get a 256 or 512 GB in a year if I wait. In any case I’m jealous this exists and I don’t have one.
One last thing, I assume this isn’t exclusive and there will be other builds with this same config same as current Strix Halo?
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#3Mmm.. AI395 at 3.5k ( and out of stock mind ). And I still want to give it a shot when it is out. I suppose I just explained to myself the ridiculous jump in prices. The demand is crazy.
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#4No blog post, no order, no preorder; I think the only things about it are this sentence and a half:
> 192GB coming soon
> The most powerful Framework Desktop yet is coming soon with an AMD Ryzen™ AI Max+ PRO 495 processor and 192GB of LPDDR5X memory.
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#5So... Can it sleep with echo mem >/sys/power/state?
Abd wake up without crashing?
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#6Memory bandwidth certainly is the bottleneck on my 395+ 128GB. It's been a great server. Think I'll wait another year maybe hopefully the prices come down and there's one more gen of hardware and local llm gets even better. Excited for this!
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#7Im less interested in the memory than the memory bandwidth. The current system with 128GB can load pretty big models, but its meaningless unless you want to wait 40 minutes per prompt.
I've had best results with Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, which uses 40GB of memory, but only uses 3 billion parameters per token which helps with throughput.
Until memory bandwidth significantly improves I just can't see myself wanting to use all that memory. Unless it's just to keep a wide variety of models in memory.
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#8> Seize the means of computation
Feels like they blatantly ripped that off the title of a Cory Doctorow book [0].
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#9Woof. What's that going to cost? And will we actually be able to buy one, because the 128GB model has been sold out pretty much since the LLM craze started...
Re: New Framework Desktop Option with AMD Ryzen AI Max+ Pro 495 and 192GB Memory
#10I have a framework desktop w/ 128GB that I bought last Christmas and if I’m looking at it right it costs $2000 (CAD) more now because of the RAM shortage (and in any event is apparently out of stock). Would love to have 192 GB but I’m not sure I can justify buying another. Does anyone have a sense of how this might progress, e.g if I can get a 256 or 512 GB in a year if I wait. In any case I’m jealous this exists and…
what I read in I think the direct AMD press, it's essentially like a 10% upgrade to compute but mostly ram.
I agree, this is the direction AMD was going in to larger attached memory and they got hit by the memory cartel pricing; They likely were going to hit 256GB instead of this weird glitch in the sizing.
So, yes, of course they're going to hit higher memory sizes; but since they models are meant for laptops and to get the speed you want for inference, they're soldered, you have no real options.
Framework in particular might have a high value on ebay as I assume this will be a drop in replacement for their existing motherboard.