While codeberg can do as they please, I'm worried about the walled gardens we're creating all over the place. Be it non-exclusive open source projects (hi gitea) because it's a meeting point for a subset of extremist politics or services like this (not even talking about x, fediverse, etc. etc.). The open and free web seems dead, it's fragmented into oblivion. I always valued the weird and random exchange of ideas th…
Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects
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#472I don't like crypto but this is poor reasoning, hastily implemented, and given very little time for discussion. There does not seem to be any concrete plan for notifying impacted projects or giving them a roadmap to migrate. This is unprofessional and severely harms their credibility. It's not what was done but how they did it, and I don't doubt that subsequent policy changes can and will be implemented in the same m…
Making the proposal fit all the nuances would no doubt be a nightmare in an association structure with so many members distributed around the world, we've had 6h+ long meetings for deciding on wording of a controversial policy in our e.V., and that was with everyone involved in the same room.
Codeberg may simply not be the right forge for many projects, which is probably fine, but does leave a gap for a good non-big-tech forge alternative (tangled isn't a good alternative, fwiw).
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#473Earlier quoted context omitted.
Were you paying for the service?
Downvoters: if someone indignantly announces they are leaving a service in a manner that suggests its a loss for the service, finding out if they are a paying customer - and in this case, one that can vote on the subject at hand - adds to the discussion.
Codeberg has 0 paying customers. It is a non-profit providing services for free and not a business.
Membership in the non-profit requires fee paid by EU bank transfer and gives voting rights on questions like this but is separate accounting from use of the free sevices.
All this is explained front-and center or codeberg.org.
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#474As with the AI ban this was a community decision done by a majority vote. It seems that most people commenting or writing articles in the last few days don't have a Codeberg account or never visit the forum.
I have an account and I donate regularly. I was not made aware a vote was happening.
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#475Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah I don't know. It's impossible to draw a clear line, but the overall effect is not hard to identify. If your work supports a community and creates value, you can reasonably expect the community's support. If your work leeches from a community, you can reasonably expect the community to turn on you. To me slop is identifiable by its effect: it is the type of work which leeches value
To me, this all sounds like the kind of fuzzy reasoning and nondescript language that turns communities into popularity contests and backstabbing competitions. If Codeberg wants to put a flag up to draw in every programmer with a personality disorder, well that may be their right , but it’s not a good idea.
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#477I bet Microsoft loves that these GitHub competitors shoot themselves in the foot so often.
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#478As with the AI ban this was a community decision done by a majority vote. It seems that most people commenting or writing articles in the last few days don't have a Codeberg account or never visit the forum.
putting aside the saying that goes something like "51% of the animal population votes to eat the other 49%", it takes a special kind of person to be both aware of such a vote happening and also care to participate in it. codeberg has outed themselves as an unserious undertaking. they will not be known for anything else now.
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#479Earlier quoted context omitted.
A side effect of platform vs publisher. They are voluntarily choosing to be a publisher. Publishers are responsible for the actions that the users do on their platform. States are happier with and want more publishers as it's easier to censor, add surveillance and control them than neutral platforms. The few past times when Cloudfare censored politically was interesting as they quickly made apologies because they wan…
> platform vs publisher No such distinction exists. It was a just-so story made up by people trying to push the idea that moderation created a legal liability. And it's German, anyway. The DMCA doesn't even apply there.
It was ever thus except when we remember.
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#480Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not following. Your last comment on Lobsters[0] was 4 days ago, that's not soft quitting. And even if it is, how is soft quitting war? [0]: https://lobste.rs/~matheusmoreira
I used to post a lot more. I took the "be part of the community" rule pretty seriously and really tried. I dramatically cut down on my participation after the "ban AI slop" meta threads made me feel like I was not welcome due to my AI use. Getting straight up called a "slop fetishist" will do that. Since then I've been mostly participating on veqq's lobster interview threads. My highest posting volume was in my own i…