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Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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I mean, that's your right, but also they'll get new users too. So much of the internet is drowning in slop that any place that's still brimming with original content will likely see its stock go up, and will tend to attract people who still do original work, creating a virtuous cycle

How do you define "slop" ?

the same way United States Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart defined porn in Jacobellis v. Ohio, you know it when you see it

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Why? Banning abuse is fine, and disliking Cryptocurrency projects at a moral level is fine, but running a coffee hosting service and putting your moral judgements on projects like this just seems childish and unserious. I'm also apparently banned from reading the article, despite having no previous usage of Codeberg or any history with the project, so I can't even see their reasoning.

In the words of the person who announced the ban, when moderating a discussion on it 8 months prior:[1] > > Dear Codeberg, please push out and ban these political fighters. > This is not a neutral space, Codeberg is political. If you disagree with someone, be constructive and don't call them merely political and think that's a reason for the discussion to stop. the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are…

> the maintainers of Codeberg do not believe that they are a "coffee hosting service" that neutrally hosts code from a variety of perspectives.

They do not believe this because this is simply not the reality we live in

> Their view is that hosting code is a political act and this is backed by the donations funding Codeberg's operation.

They are correct in this view. No matter how "apolitical" platforms like Github and various maintainers of open source projects pretend to be, the reality is that creating, hosting and distributing code is highly political and should be treated as such.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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post #235

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> Should hackernews also mention that allowed content is dependent on its moderators with vaguely defined ideologies? Absolutely. And it would be even better if the moderators each wrote a short summary that’s an honest attempt to describe what their individual ideologies are. I respect institutions that clearly state their biases much more than those that pretend they have none.

Fair enough! But surely you would allow them to update their summary on what their ideologies are, right? People change, after all. And people should know when those ideologies change too. We should also make sure people read all the blurbs before they join a website. Maybe we should call it the Terms of Service? ;) Despite most websites having nothing but legalese in there, Codeberg's is pretty short and human reada…

The problem isn’t about ToS or other kinds of rules, it’s about what drives them.

When I join a community, I would like to be able to predict whether tomorrow, they might ban Chinese projects, or projects written in Lisp, or projects that only run on Windows.

This doesn’t follow from the ToS, it follows from what the platform’s values are. Codeberg does publicly state its claimed values, but they don’t imply these new bans.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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What do you mean? If I talk to a friend about stargazing that's political? If a group of people meet up to play a game of cards that's political?

So I am very pedantic here, but yes it "can" be seen as political. You made the decision that your free time is more important than working and generating value. I understand "everything is political" more in a sense that we as a society have the burden to shape our own rules, and saying "I only live in the society, but ignore the burden of making rules" is not really possible. In that case you actively decide to let…

>You made the decision that your free time is more important than working and generating value.

How is that political? It's just a decision based on competing priorities. By this interpretation an animal's decision to either sleep or eat is also political.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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So what is Codeberg’s political stance? From which ideology does it follow that crypto projects are bad, but VPN projects are not, for example?

VPNs are generic networking/security tools that can also be used for things like circumventing geoblocking. Cryptocurrency doesn’t have a lot of use cases outside of money laundering, avoiding sanctions and stealing money through rug pulls.

That doesn’t answer the question. What is the underlying ideology/value system? Lots of people would disagree with your second claim, so if that’s what they believe then this itself implies all kinds of nonstandard values.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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post #35

I'm not personally a fan of this move or the vibe coding rule. That being said, I genuinely wonder how many people complaining about the rule are personally affected. Seems weird to me to complain about a service setting its own rules when you don't engage with it or contribute to it.

It's HN. They like to think they are better than reddit, but in the end this site is a huge echo box, and any outlier causes these reactions, particularly when it's something or someone taking a moral/ethical stance

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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Well, definitely makes me inclined to never use Codeberg for source hosting if they can just get together and decide to ban an entire category of source repo. It makes Codeberg seem like an unserious project.

Were you paying for the service?

Downvoters: if someone indignantly announces they are leaving a service in a manner that suggests its a loss for the service, finding out if they are a paying customer - and in this case, one that can vote on the subject at hand - adds to the discussion.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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post #267

https://blog.codeberg.org/we-stay-strong-against-hate-and-ha... It's not like they've been hiding their activism.

Your point is, they should do nothing about targeted hateful spam campaigns against their users? If someone starts flinging shit at your window, and you protested, I'd tell you to sit down and "quit the activism".

No, the parent was precisely saying it's perfectly fine to take position, and it's nothing new for codeberg. In particular, the linked article was not just about countering spam, but also against « far-right ideologies ». So it's nothing new or surprising that codeberg is political.

Re: Codeberg Bans Cryptocurrency Projects

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GitHub is the worst place to host your code. Except for all of the other places.

Well, GitHub seems unlikely to randomly ban your project if it fits within an entire category of services some admin arbitrarily decided they don't like. I know which one I'll be sticking with.

Github might randomly ban your project if USA decides they don't like the colour of your passport.
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