So after the 2008 spying scandal (cia got caught using German intelligence bases to steal airbus designs), Airbus ran it's critical applications ... on AWS? Wow.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
US Tech does understand, US Administration does not.
I doubt US tech understands. For one, they are deeply in bed with the current administration (for any definition of current, past, and future). For another, they fight tooth and nail any and all sovereignity of data even within their own walled gardens. See decade of battles by Google, Apple, Facebook etc. in the EU.
Nvidia's Jensen as an example called out the risk that a GPU ban to China would accelerate Chinese r&D
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
If your entire business decision is driven solely by an emotional response to Hetzner having a policy that needs ID, maybe you’re not the right person to be making these sort of decisions?
> emotional response to Hetzner having a policy that needs ID It seems to me more like smart business tact, figuring out early on whether your infrastructure provider will be easy to work with or a bureaucratic pain in the ass
Can you name one B2B contract you have that didn't require any identification of you or your business?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
> How about the case of “I want to rent a server to distribute illicit and or dangerous materials and then it’s your problem”? Why would it be? And are we going to use "because terrorism" card on HN?
Yeah, I think that’s the one case where it’s actually appropriate to use that card. Like it or not, banks are legally mandated to do KYC, and this is essentially the same, except for information or communication being “moved” instead of money.
It's a foreign concept to Americans but in Europe everyone is supposed to be able to be held accountable. That means a lot more things are KYC. You need ID to get a SIM card or a drone.
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#95A study in contrasts, I signed up my business with Hetzner. And the first thing I saw during onboarding was a demand to upload my ID to spend $5 to test their service (I was testing before we bought). I wrote to customer service and got, Dear Client, We received your email. Thanks for writing to us. You have probably realized that this is an automated message. We need some time to process each email that we receive,…
Count on German companies to make things more complicated than they need and to squander clients for minor nitpicks
Name one B2B relationship you have where you didn't provide ID of you or your business.
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#96Vendor lock-in has always been a concern, but AI workloads make the conversation even more important. Designing portable architectures from day one is becoming a competitive advantage.
Think getting away from vendor lock-in was one of the primary reason Kubernetes took off
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#97I don't fully understand why companies use AWS. Is it a management driven or engineering driven decision? I assume management - in big companies some exec from Amazon comes to play golf, and in small companies the managers copy what the big companies are doing?
AWS were first and dominated. Microsoft moved late with Azure, but as they had so many customers in B2B already with SQL Server and Office, that they soon grew market share. Google Cloud followed and acquired companies like Firebase to differentiate. Market Share 2026 AWS 28% Azure 21% Google 14% https://www.statista.com/chart/18819/worldwide-market-share-...
Anyone who’s actually used Azure knows it’s an unmitigated disaster for uptime. The problem is that this has been consistently true for like a decade now. This indicates real core architectural deficiencies they’ve been unable to address.
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#98Is Airbus still using Google workspaces for mail? Nice vector for industrial espionage. Why did Airbus go to "the cloud" in the first place? It seems complete overkill for a company like that.
... is this a reverse Dropbox comment? Everyone up to COVID was treating companies not moving some infra to AWS like how hardware companies would be treated without a mockup humanoid to show around.
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#99What doesn't get talked about in these articles is the increasing impact to small business in the US.
I run a small business (scanii.com) and I've noticed over the past year an increasing number of customers leaving us to European competitors, customers that have been happy with us for years, using our European region, but now have concerns over US foreign policy and are giving preferred treatment to EU suppliers. When I asked they said, I'm paraphrasing here, "happy with the product but management wants EU supplier".
What this means in practical terms is that, if the tide doesn't change, US entrepreneurs will have a potential buyer population that is roughly cut in half if they can only sell to US buyers. This will have a cascading negative effect in the number of startups that succeed - impossible to quantify at this point.
Large corps can skirt around this issue by establishing an EU entity and trying to buy goodwill that way but that's not an option easily available to small businesses.
I fear rough waters ahead.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
AWS were first and dominated. Microsoft moved late with Azure, but as they had so many customers in B2B already with SQL Server and Office, that they soon grew market share. Google Cloud followed and acquired companies like Firebase to differentiate. Market Share 2026 AWS 28% Azure 21% Google 14% https://www.statista.com/chart/18819/worldwide-market-share-...
Anyone who’s actually used Azure knows it’s an unmitigated disaster for uptime. The problem is that this has been consistently true for like a decade now. This indicates real core architectural deficiencies they’ve been unable to address.
It's fine for things with poor uptime to exist. The problem is that people use it anyway. I think this is a lot to do with corruption. Like when Microsoft bribed a German city to stay on Windows/Office.