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NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Not that I like the idea of it, but I could see adding furniture to empty apartment photos. A furnished apartment probably sells better than an empty one.

And photos of a furnished property give a better sense of the size of the space, and what can be done with it, than photos of empty rooms. (So long as the furnishings are sized realistically, of course.)

Yeah the wrong sizing is my main problem, I dont even care about minor cosmetic issues like wrong paint on a photo if its still size accurate.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

#93

This is a frustrating trend with real estate agents on their MLS pictures. Sure, they have a disclaimer (most of the time) but at a thumbnail size as the lead image, it’s not possible to see it’s AI. Which leads to clicking on a complete BS listing.

At some point I hope we as a society stop trusting anything we see online. It's fake, slop, generated bullshit in most cases and only getting worse.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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There's several other areas that would be good to categorically ban AI usage from: - gambling - dating - hiring - advertising It shouldn't even be controversial that this would be broadly good for society. I say that as an AI maximalist: I fully trust AI with these things. I do not trust the humans using the AI.

Does basic photoshop count as AI usage...? What about changing color balance, dynamic range, etc?

No but we used to call that “photoshopping an image” for a reason, especially when done to an extreme.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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And then immediately wrote “I fully trust AI with these things”

But also wrote that he didn’t trust the humans behind the AI.

Nobody said that he did

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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Are protections really this weak in New York? Where I live even using Photoshop for real estate advertisements is illegal, nevermind AI.

A real estate photographer described the typical job as taking 15 photos of the same living room while moving a softbox around and then merging the layers in Photoshop. No Photoshop would be like no copy pasting permitted while writing code.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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What? Is your claim that every photo will be labeled as AI-modified, or that people won't label AI-modified images? If the latter, just penalize the listing agents. Trivial. The entire issue is that the platforms are already inundated with misleading, unlabeled AI-modified images.

Every photo will be AI-enhanced and correctly labeled as such. Just like every Web site has a cookie warning.

If that ends up happening, then the next step would be for the platform to derank listings that contain AI-enhanced photos, to set the proper incentive. That would be up to the platform to enforce, though.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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What’s the point though? To save prospective renters time?

I’ve lived here for 30+ years, rented for more than 20 and why would anyone ever rent an apartment without seeing it in person?

That being said, IANAL but I imagine the rule is fully legal. The city already mandates a host of things: if the listing markets something as a 3BR, it needs to have 3 rooms bigger than 80 sq feet, each with an exterior window. If they say 3BR and it needs a wall to created the 3rd BR they have to put it up. If it says 2BR convertible 3BR, you might have to pay to have it put up.

Re: NYC may require landlords and realtors to disclose the use of AI in listings

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It's super annoying, but this is a total nothing burger because he doesn't actually have any power to do anything here. This has also been a problem long before AI with "virtually staged" apartments.

> he doesn't actually have any power to do anything here. Landlords in nyc are doing business in nyc, which means the city can regulate them, does it not?

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