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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by siwakotisaurav »

sushid wrote: post #25
siwakotisaurav wrote: post #22

AI videos as in remotion based videos look much better imo since it can code much better than it can prompt for videos with a coherent narrative https://youtu.be/uDAeAuYyl0E (parody of Claude announcements) https://youtu.be/cSsVNtGPOIg (recreating a fireship video)

This is incredible! Did you make these yourself? I am familiar with remotion but this is a lot more than just splicing images, etc. Did you use a skill library to make this?

Yea this one specifically is mostly fable, remotion skills and allowing it to use Gemini 3.1 pro to understand the video

The Claude one was a 3-prompt to get it to recreate the original “Agent view” announcement video. But wanted to challenge it, hence the bankruptcy mode. But it’s really bad at coming up with jokes and a coherent narrative so had to guide it wit prompts like 5 times or so

Fireship video that was just a single prompt, with allowing it to use my basement gpu which has Higgs installed for the voice clone

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by brabel »

onesandofgrain wrote: post #274
Mashimo wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they absurd and meaningless? Can be art and creative, just like the music.

Music videos take attention away from the actual art. It's purely a gimmick to make bad music sound better. ... and no, music videos are not art.

Your definition of art is not in agreement with any artist’s interpretation I’ve ever heard. It’s like saying a movie based on a book is not art , it just distracts from the book.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by galaxyLogic »

onesandofgrain wrote: post #274
Mashimo wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are they absurd and meaningless? Can be art and creative, just like the music.

Music videos take attention away from the actual art. It's purely a gimmick to make bad music sound better. ... and no, music videos are not art.

I think it's the same situation and direction with human dancers on every pop-music stage. They add nothing to the music so why are they there? It used to be that musicians focused on great playing and singers on great singing, but now every pop-star and also rap-star must have their dancers on stage. I personally don't get it but seems like many people like it more if there are more dancers.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by marsven_422 »

qbit42 wrote: post #272

AI is destroying the economics which allowed for a sizable middle class of artists. The issue is that many are paid for their art mostly for its aesthetic rather than artistic value. This isn’t the most creatively fulfilling, but it previously allowed many artists to make a living while refining their skills, often enabling them to pursue their real creative ambitions on the side.

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Post by flohofwoe »

thewanderer1983 wrote: post #51
saaaaaam wrote: post #41

These are awful. It’s like Suno music. Seems convincing if you half listen. As soon as you pay attention you notice all the cracks.

Visual effects went through this same development issues as the industry matured. What took this industry decades to advance it taking months in AI. Think the spaghetti Will Smith and now this. Another one people don't mention here but is specific to video is higgsfield ai.

CGI effects actually got worse once they were used en-masse to make movie production cheaper. Good CGI still takes care, skill and taste.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by DanHulton »

vintermann wrote: post #271
hbn wrote: post #257

Like most of this stuff, it's obviously impressive technology compared to what existed a few years ago. But the end product has zero artistic value. It's a grey goo of the average of every concept picked up from the concept of the song. A talented creative with a vision could make something more interesting and enjoyable in an afternoon with a $0 budget.

We don't yet know the "load bearing" or "delve" or "not X. Not Y. Just..." Clichés of video AI - at least I don't know. But given it's instruction tuned, we can be confident they will be there, and that the breadth of what it can generate for a given prompt will have extremely low diversity compared to its training data.

One of the big dead giveaways for AI videos is the sequence of slow pan shots without any sort of real action or focus. Once you start seeing it in a few of them, you'll start seeing it in _all_ of them. Just shot after shot of a slow pan of a scene with minimal action happening in only a few areas.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by onesandofgrain »

galaxyLogic wrote: post #283
onesandofgrain wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Music videos take attention away from the actual art. It's purely a gimmick to make bad music sound better. ... and no, music videos are not art.

I think it's the same situation and direction with human dancers on every pop-music stage. They add nothing to the music so why are they there? It used to be that musicians focused on great playing and singers on great singing, but now every pop-star and also rap-star must have their dancers on stage. I personally don't get it but seems like many people like it more if there are more dancers.

Exactly, they add nothing. It's a cringey gimmick. The music is the art.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by onesandofgrain »

brabel wrote: post #282
onesandofgrain wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Music videos take attention away from the actual art. It's purely a gimmick to make bad music sound better. ... and no, music videos are not art.

Your definition of art is not in agreement with any artist’s interpretation I’ve ever heard. It’s like saying a movie based on a book is not art , it just distracts from the book.

I don't care about being in agreement with "any artist's interpretation". And stop appealing to the masses argument, it's cringe.

No, a movie based upon a book is the same art just told in a different way, but I'm not buying that rappers driving luxury cars while rapping and having women in stripper heels tells the same musical artistic story in a different way. Or some random story.

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Post by latexr »

bko wrote: post #118
datsci_est_2015 wrote: post #116

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Lmao yeah I’d rather give $100 to a college kid to film a bunch of shit and then splice it together. Would be significantly more interesting.

What college kid would do that for $100? Seems like a lot of work. They might do it for free if they enjoy it or for a class, but purely for the money, not even close to being worth their time.

Seems pretty clear that the argument isn’t “approach a random kid in college studying philosophy or economics and ask them to make a music video for $100”. You ask this of someone studying cinema or something related, which has both the know-how and access to equipment but is lacking in experience.
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