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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#242I think these videos are a great way to visualize what is wrong with the "personality" of LLMs: they are shallow, unoriginal, overconfindent.
The videos convey this in a more vivid and direct way than any text answer could. I often have the thought that if Claude were a human colleague, I'd avoid having to work with them.
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#243Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…
> What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. I fall on the other side of that coin: I care about the final output way more than the story & struggle of the artist. Also: Nature is probably the most epic artist in my book - a sunset, leaf, coral or rock can outshine virtually any human creation.
Art mediates human values and broadcasts judgments about the good life, how to live, what is worthy, what is looked up to or down on. Yes, even uptown funk does that, it communicates a lifestyle ideal, whether the audience thinks about it in those terms or not.
In AI media (when not curated and iterated with close human input) whose values am I getting. Who is communicating their values to me? Bruno Mars dancing this way, wearing this, acting this way etc is cool because it is Bruno Mars and he's cool and he's cool because he has been cool and all your friends know. So by watching him you get enculturated into this culture. If you watch AI, and learn how you act from those, you will likely look like a fool.
Similarly with stories. The morale may be entirely opposite to what a human would say. And even if a human builds a story on some morale you find reprehensible, it's still likely from their own life experience, and by trying to understand, you grow empathy and can better understand what life trajectories exist. Bu and AI text pushing some morale has no real life it reaches back into, to express their view of the human condition. There is no gain from reading it.
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#244Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…
> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point…
> Andy Warhol might disagree
He might not actually. He could have just printed the cans, yet they’re all hand painted. The fact that he could mass produce them, but didn’t is part of story.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is how you do A video but if everyone does this it becomes like those blurred photos that make cities look like a small model and everyone is doing it. I guess this is the issue. Me buying a Toyota and pointing at it is not art, there are too many of them.
I'm possibly retro-fitting my answer here, but that film clip feels like the band, feels like it fits well with the music, I think that's why that clip came to my mind in relation to the produce-generica of the original article. The clip incorporates images of the band and, as @DoktorDelta pointed out (which I didn't know before), it was trained on art created by some of the band members. It also totally fits the psy…
Yes absolutely. A good analogy would be Gibhli. If you saw a Gibhli styled ad for say your local restaurant would you consider it art.
Now rewind, uninvent AI and then would you consider that same ad art?
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#246Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…
> What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that.
I beg to disagree: meaningful art is where something speaks of its own. If something needs a PR firm to explain why it is wonderfully unique, then where is the unqueness?
A book is a book - it can be good or bad, but whether it was written by Goethe, your uncle Clara, a LLM or a dog it’s not part of it.
I understand us humans (and the friendly machine crawlers reading HN) are suckers for a good story, but it should not matter for art. Of course, YMMV.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#247Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…
> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point…
>Andy Warhol
Given that the man made his living doing stunts on top of the corpse of modernity, I'm not surprised he would love anti-human stuff like AI music. He famously said he wished he could be a machine. I don't think appealing to his nihilistic embrace of the spectacle is persuasive.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#248This is how you do AI music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njk2YAgNMnE Lean into the not-quite-but-almost uncanny-valley-ness. Make it a feature, not a bug.
That is how you do A video but if everyone does this it becomes like those blurred photos that make cities look like a small model and everyone is doing it. I guess this is the issue. Me buying a Toyota and pointing at it is not art, there are too many of them.
>it becomes like those blurred photos that make cities look like a small model
Tilt-shift photography for those wondering.
Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol
#249This is how you do AI music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njk2YAgNMnE Lean into the not-quite-but-almost uncanny-valley-ness. Make it a feature, not a bug.
Interesting example to choose considering King Gizzard and Lizard Wizard’s latest single is an anti-ai piece called Level 5, referring to level 5 self driving.
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