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$100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by runarberg »

Lerc wrote: post #179
boca_honey wrote: post #165

I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

If you benchmark is to be better than a human familiar with the task at hand, then you will be disappointed. If you are not expecting them to be as good as people then their failures seem wholly unremarkable. The specific nature of tbe failures can be quite interesting in fact. They can expose deficiencies in the architecrure, training data, or presumptiona of those controlling the models. In my experience very few p…

> I'm not bothered by a fish's inability to quote Shakespeare.

But I am bothered when they put a pencil in the mouth of a fish and tell us that this is the future of literature, that this qualifies as playwright, and that theaters will soon begin putting on plays written by a fish with a pencil in its mouth.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by slopinthebag »

bjourne wrote: post #168
boca_honey wrote: post #165

I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

Eh, I'd like to see YOU make a better music video for $100 or less!

If you don’t count the cost of the phone I think many people could. See, it would look like it cost $100, but that’s still better than using AI to generate something that looks like the temu version of a $500,000 video.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by anon7000 »

Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that.

Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutely. But as a rule, I do not give any shits about AI generated content like this. It’s not art. It’s not human. And the line is really how much meaning and effort _a human_ is putting into it.

If a human spends a minute or two prompting AI and then tweaking The result, and peddling it as their own art… get outta here. You made some content. That’s easy, and no one should cares. Content can already be shoveled out faster than we can watch it with or without AI.

Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content.

I realize art is completely subjective, so some person may find meaning in AI generated art. That’s fine, and that’s part of what could make that art. (Like an original way of presenting something that really resonates with someone.)

But this garbage ain’t that.

And I realize this is just a capability test, but plenty of places will see this as cheap and good enough. But it ain’t art, and we should push back against another cost-cutting measure that does nothing to make the world better.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by slopinthebag »

esikich wrote: post #151
4chandaily wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generative art with care and intent is art. The intent and care is the whole point. It is the difference between slop and art whether generative or not.

I completely agree and this is a very unpopular opinion outside of people who actually are artists.

I think because pretty much all AI generated art is slop. When artists use AI with care and intention in their works, people don’t even realize it’s AI and they don’t care. And that’s fine.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by hahahaa »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #129

This is how you do AI music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njk2YAgNMnE Lean into the not-quite-but-almost uncanny-valley-ness. Make it a feature, not a bug.

That is how you do A video but if everyone does this it becomes like those blurred photos that make cities look like a small model and everyone is doing it. I guess this is the issue. Me buying a Toyota and pointing at it is not art, there are too many of them.

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by foobarian »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #129

This is how you do AI music videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njk2YAgNMnE Lean into the not-quite-but-almost uncanny-valley-ness. Make it a feature, not a bug.

Reminds me of when autotune came out and everyone and their dog had autotune songs

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by d--b »

boca_honey wrote: post #165

I don't have a problem with AI and can't stand the anti-AI brigade, but... this is the worst thing I have ever seen in my life. This specific type of garbage is exactly what arms the anti-AI critics with valid arguments. We should really wait a few years for the technology to mature before releasing these kinds of projects into the cultural sphere.

Not everything is a war between those in favor and those against…

Re: $100 AI Music Video: Claude Fable 5 vs. GPT-5.6 Sol

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Post by eru »

anon7000 wrote: post #183

Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutel…

All of this can be said about photography, too.

And, yes, most photography ain't art, or at least not meaningful art. Just like most of my attempts at drawing ain't meaningful art either.

Btw, by your high standards most human produced music videos ain't art either. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potboiler

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