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Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Half kidding feature request for HN: Mark all AI related posts so I can filter them out, when I need a pause.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=last24h&page=0&prefix=fals... or https://lobste.rs will probably have less AI

How does one get a lobsters invite?

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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The thing is - as a European, I can choose between plague and cholera. One has mostly been reliable, stayed peaceful towards us and is primarily concerned with their internal matters and the countries right next to it. They have long-term strategy and understanding of win-win situations. The other one keeps threatening to invade/steal Greenland. Keeps waging an economic war against the entire bloc. Positions their pr…

>One has mostly been reliable, stayed peaceful towards us and is primarily concerned with their internal matters and the countries right next to it.

This is textbook international relations realism. Rising powers pretend they aren't powerful so countries don't balance against them.

Their actions are entirely predictable.

Then suddenly they will begin to do imperialism, like all great powers, and suddenly they will pretend to be stronger than they are.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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> Kimi K3 is Kimi’s most capable model to date, with 2.8 trillion parameters. This puts them on the top of the largest open models list: Kimi K3 2.8T DeepSeek-V4-Pro 1.6T (49B active) Kimi K2.6 ~1T (32B active) GLM-5.2 754B (40B active) DeepSeek-V3.2 685B Mistral Large 3 675B That's one mighty large model! Moonshot is going to need the USD 500 million reportedly raised earlier this year to run this model.

I guess it remains to be seen whether this will be open-weights. We don't even know how many active params at this point.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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More details: - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/pricing/chat-k3 1M context, pricing is $3/$15 for 1M tokens (cache $0.3), which is extremely high for a Chinese open-weight model, but if it's truly competitive with most of the current frontier and is only behind Fable/Sol, the pricing is justified. This is 1:1 pricing of Anthropic's Sonnet series (except Sonnet 5…

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It's an open model, you can just wait a few days and you'll get to choose who to hand it over to, or given the resources you can run it on your own box.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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> Kimi K3 is Kimi’s most capable model to date, with 2.8 trillion parameters. This puts them on the top of the largest open models list: Kimi K3 2.8T DeepSeek-V4-Pro 1.6T (49B active) Kimi K2.6 ~1T (32B active) GLM-5.2 754B (40B active) DeepSeek-V3.2 685B Mistral Large 3 675B That's one mighty large model! Moonshot is going to need the USD 500 million reportedly raised earlier this year to run this model.

I guess it remains to be seen whether this will be open-weights. We don't even know how many active params at this point.

The article says weights will be released in the coming days, and hints it's likely around 50-70B active params.

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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Sadly these days this seems like the least worse of the three major regimes.

You are in a bubble. They just raided independent book stores in Hong Kong.

Everybody is in a bubble. Which is why it's worth looking into other people's bubbles occasionally.

https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2026/07/15/people-in-many...

Re: Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence

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The thing is - as a European, I can choose between plague and cholera. One has mostly been reliable, stayed peaceful towards us and is primarily concerned with their internal matters and the countries right next to it. They have long-term strategy and understanding of win-win situations. The other one keeps threatening to invade/steal Greenland. Keeps waging an economic war against the entire bloc. Positions their pr…

>One has mostly been reliable, stayed peaceful towards us and is primarily concerned with their internal matters and the countries right next to it. This is textbook international relations realism. Rising powers pretend they aren't powerful so countries don't balance against them. Their actions are entirely predictable. Then suddenly they will begin to do imperialism, like all great powers, and suddenly they will pr…

And then I'm of course going to root for getting rid of them.

What alternative would you propose? Currently, there's no alternative I know of, either you rely on the US or on China or both.

Me and many others are doing our best building that alternative and promoting local solutions in all areas, but it takes time. And until then, I'd like to use the one that isn't threatening to steal our territory, thank you very much.

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Better than handing it over to the US regime.

and yet here you are on an american site providing data. what about youtube or reddit? I don't think you actually care in reality. otherwise you wouldn't be here to comment.
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