No blog post? Benchmarks?
Kimi K3: Open Frontier Intelligence
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#82More details: - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/guide/kimi-k3-quickstart - https://platform.kimi.ai/docs/pricing/chat-k3 1M context, pricing is $3/$15 for 1M tokens (cache $0.3), which is extremely high for a Chinese open-weight model, but if it's truly competitive with most of the current frontier and is only behind Fable/Sol, the pricing is justified. This is 1:1 pricing of Anthropic's Sonnet series (except Sonnet 5…
It seems the subsidized era is nearing its end and we'll see a convergence on API pricing before a pulling of subscriptions pricing.
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#83Half kidding feature request for HN: Mark all AI related posts so I can filter them out, when I need a pause.
I think we have a need to revise the old let me Google that for you thing
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#85Not worth it. I have just tried a single prompt in the web interface and it is still not finish reasoning. It thinks too much and often repeats the same stuff over and over.
Combine with the price it will surely more costly than gpt 5.6.
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#86> Kimi K3 is Kimi’s most capable model to date, with 2.8 trillion parameters.
This puts them on the top of the largest open models list:
Kimi K3 2.8T
DeepSeek-V4-Pro 1.6T (49B active)
Kimi K2.6 ~1T (32B active)
GLM-5.2 754B (40B active)
DeepSeek-V3.2 685B
Mistral Large 3 675B
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#87No blog post? Benchmarks?
This might have been published before they released their tech blog, I don't see one
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#88Amazing to see an open source model already nearing the benchmarks of Fable and GPT 5.6 Sol! Also very cool to see LatentMoE being picked up by more models ( https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.18089 )
Surely it's only open weights?
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#89Say what you want about these Chinese models but they sure create competition and urgency in the space.
Agreed, this will save us all money in the long run.
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#90> We also further increased the sparsity of the Mixture of Experts (MoE): with the Stable LatentMoE framework, the model efficiently activates 16 out of 896 experts. Together with improvements in training methodology and data recipes, these structural advances give K3 roughly 2.5x the overall scaling efficiency of K2, converting compute into capability more effectively. Assuming experts are uniformly distributed (I’m…
2.5x the scaling efficiency, so 4 times the price? What is happening here? Did the subsidies dry up with the discrepancy between chinese and US models?
Scaling efficiency simply means if you took the first small model and scaled it up to the big model it would take 2.5x the resources to run. Not the that larger model is going to be any cheaper.
Kind of like scaling your personal automobile to the weight of a semi, the semi is still going to be far more efficient in moving cargo, not that the semi will cost the same to operate as the original car.