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I guess that is one way to manufacture consent.
As another European, I agree with GP. I don't fully trust my government. But I definitely trust it more than any American tech company. I can also vote out my government. I can't do that for Big Tech.
I agree wholeheartedly with the argument raised in this github issue, but I think people are wrong to be skeptical about the concept of a government-issued age verification app. Thing is, the status quo is absolutely worse. My 13yo son likes making Roblox games. Suddenly, some months ago, Roblox made a change where you’re not allowed to share your games with friends unless you do “age verification”, apparently in som…
As a purely tactical measure, we use the same older person (me) for age verification for all family members - zero failures so far and it poisons the well.
Is there a 'break glass' workflow in case you are not available (e.g., health incident)?
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We have had the need to prove age for hundreds of years. To buy alcohol. To drive a car. To vote. We depend on government-issued documents to do this. Not sure why anyone would really expect this to change just because it's online now.
Very obviously because privacy advocates are concerned by the effects of mass deanonymization. I find it doubtful that you don't grasp that.
Don't fall for the trap. The question isn't how we should technically force age verification on anybody. The question is why they're pushing it onto everyone. I did not consent to this, neither did you.
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Very obviously because privacy advocates are concerned by the effects of mass deanonymization. I find it doubtful that you don't grasp that.
I bought a bag of chips without having to show my ID. There is a big difference between: Government demands every website to have age verification, and government supported scheme by which service can opt into age verification. As of now, American private spyware is actively filling the demand. I get the feeling some privacy advocates are approaching the choice as a tier system, with government being the worst case.…
I agree with the sentiment but is there even any phone that doesn't run Android (or derivatives) or iOS and that can install modern "apps"?
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Easier than… not using age verification ? It's not like it's a feature for you the end user, it doesn't solve any of your problems, on the contrary, it creates new ones.
So we should just let children order alcohol and cigarettes online then?
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"only if you choose to share your personal data with either Google or Apple"?
How is that different from having a banking app installed? Or a government ID app?
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As another European, I agree with GP. I don't fully trust my government. But I definitely trust it more than any American tech company. I can also vote out my government. I can't do that for Big Tech.
> I can also vote out my government. You can't. Not if you're in the minority. Tyranny of the majority is still tyranny. You what you as an individual most certainly can do is stop using Roblox. Not ideal, but way easier than moving to a new country.
Is that a bad thing?