EU Parliament greenlights Chat Control 1.0

Post by josephg » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 5:08 AM UTC

dyauspitr wrote: post #394

bradley13 wrote: post #128

Stupid parliamentary trick: Hold the vote on the day before the summer break - ensuring that many people have already returned to their home countries. Then use a sort of "reverse" parliamentary trick: the default is that this legislation is accepted. They needed an absolute majority - not of voting members, but of all members - to reject it. Result: 314 against, 276 in favor, 17 abstentions, 113 absent The EU is wel…

The internet is pretty stupid now and needs to be reigned in so our sons and daughters aren’t wide eyed zombies. Most of you won’t agree with me but it’s true and something needs to be done so I laud this.

Post by LtWorf » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 5:19 AM UTC

bko wrote: post #430

spikels wrote: post #347

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Not only was Chat Control 1.0 already rejected twice by the European Parliament but: - This vote took place on last day of the session when many MEPs had already left for Summer vacation - 112 MEPs of 719 didn't vote. - The vote was called only two days before as an "Rule 170 - Urgent procedure" - 73 MEPs missed the vote making it "urgent". Normally it takes months of procedure to come up for a final vote.

That's why you have a constitution with rights that are not up for vote. Even relying on people to vote no is not enough.

Post by 8note » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 5:21 AM UTC

blackqueeriroh wrote: post #543

hunter-gatherer wrote: post #524

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I don't know... I'm not European so I don't really care, but I feel like there are some jobs that have an existing overlap of _duty_. I was in the military, and PTO was viewed as a privilege, and sometimes leave was cancelled, but that makes sense because of the position. Other civilian jobs, like firefighters, police, maybe some medical practitioners, might have this same thing. Politicians I would say is definitely…

This is a deeply American (and Puritan) view of work, and I can say that as an American who works in public service. PTO is not a “privilege.” In fact, it is a documented right as part of the employment agreement your company makes you, when you sign that document about the handbook. It should be a legal agreement, but somehow we’ve convinced people their purpose in life is to work for 50-60 years for 40+ hours a wee…

Post by geysersam » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 5:25 AM UTC

joe_mamba wrote: post #384

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #380

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This narrative is a fabrication. EU spends 33% of World’s military spending, once you exclude US. EU spends more on military than China. How much do you need to spend to defend yourself, 60% of the world? Mind you, many western weapons, like stinger and javelin, cost more than their weight in silver. Sounds like a scam

Military spending != military capability and will to use force. For example, Germany spends way more than France on defense but has a less capable military and with no nuclear capability to boot. From force projection capability, the EU is toothless and lacks the spine to twist some arms in order to see its interests represented on the world stage. It's a pushover despite all that military. The reality is that you ne…

Post by geysersam » Fri, Jul 10, 2026, 5:35 AM UTC

dismalaf wrote: post #158

attila-lendvai wrote: post #129

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for no apparent rason? the way they are preparing to bring the population into a war hardly can be any more apparent...

War is less imminent now than ever. Ukraine has caused a ton of damage to Russia and at this point the Kremlin has more to worry about than EU countries (pretty much every Russian government ever is brought down from within). No, leftist governments in the EU have failed to provide prosperity and failed in all their promises, now they're going for total control to try to stay in power. Look at France, as soon as Le P…