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Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Post by ActorNightly »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #409
ActorNightly wrote: post #407

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Everything needs to have a reason. Fireworks don't have a good reason, even ones that are professionally done. Just because its tradition doesn't mean it should be auto accepted.

No, everything does not need to have a reason! "Just because" or "I just wanted to" do not inherently make the activity useless, nor mean that it should be discontinued.

If an activity is harmful is some way, but not beneficial in any other way (just because one "likes" it doesn't count"), the reasons to ban it outweigh the reasons to keep it

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

tpm wrote: post #403
warumdarum wrote: post #401

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Ukrainewar is a direct result of the change by trade policies. Libya, syria and algeria are barely stable. major industries are dying or migrating away, and the solution to this is firesales of smaller industries to incentivize "partners" to lower trade barriers and sell for a limited timemore from major industries. The solution of choice in tech seems to be rent-seeking by institutions. The eu is dying and good ridd…

You are completely wrong in everything you just wrote.

Well, it's a 60 day old account. Totally legit.

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Post by danaris »

woeirua wrote: post #322
sdoering wrote: post #210

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> Going so far to regulate what you ought to say or to watch. Native born German. Calling BS on that crap. I recommend reading up on "freedom from" vs. "freedom to". Explains quite a lot of differences between the European tradition of ensuring people are "free from" an potentially oppressive state vs. the US tradition of "freedom to". In each "freedom of speech" index I know, Germany fares better than the US, or Bri…

I can't take these indexes seriously when Germany is about to outright ban an entire political party. The US takes the first amendment very seriously.

That "political party" is the modern-day Nazis.

Like, actual Nazis.

If you think Nazis should be given a seat at the political table, especially in Germany, then I don't think I can take you seriously.

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Post by waltbosz »

LtWorf wrote: post #382
rbanffy wrote: post #306

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I am a bit surprised someone with a house placed like your uncle would feel it’s ok to light up fireworks under an airport approach path.

I am a bit surprised they let people be there. All that security and anyone can buy a gun and shoot down planes? :D :D :D :D

> they let people be there

"there" is in people's front yards. This reddit thread shows how close the planes are to houses.

https://old.reddit.com/r/chicago/comments/1ntyavt/i_wanted_t...

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Post by waltbosz »

aidenn0 wrote: post #363
waltbosz wrote: post #349

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From his house, no I don't think a consumer mortar could hit a plane. The planes weren't that low. But the area surrounding the airport is very densely populated. Given all those people, I'm not surprised some dumb kid (or adult) lit fireworks near the airport. Also, most fireworks are illegal in Illinois. But it's only a 30 minute drive from Chicago to Indiana.

I haven't lived in Indiana in over 20 years, but is the law for mortars still: Legal to posses Legal to buy and sell Not legal to use That was always a bit silly to me. Stores would even have you sign a waiver that you weren't going to use them in Indiana.

There is a fireworks store near me in Pennsylvania that is off I-95 at maybe the first exit over the Delaware line. When you enter the building, you go into an atrium with two doors that go into two separate sub-stores divided by a wall. In the atrium, they check your driver's license. If you have a Pennsylvania license, you have to enter the store that only sells non-explosive, non-aerial fireworks (no rockets, mortars, firecrackers, Roman candles, etc). If you have a Delaware license, you can go in the other part of the store that sells the good stuff. It's illegal to possess explosive and aerial fireworks in Delaware. They also have a waiver to sign that agrees you will use the fireworks legally.

I guess in Pennsylvania it's illegal to sell the good stuff to PA residents, but not to out of state visitors.

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Post by hvb2 »

cucumber3732842 wrote: post #235
hvb2 wrote: post #230

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> But this is none of your business. I live in Germany, where everything is regulated by well meaning people. Assuming you haven't lived in the US I think you're severely underestimating some of the stupidity going on. So let's say your house has a thatched roof in California where it's bone dry and hot. At that point, the person lighting the fireworks will still say it's none of your business. Even if it's illegal a…

You wouldn't be allowed to have a thatched roof house in California specifically because of the fire risk. And if someone wanted to and had a bunch of reasons why it was a good thing you would turn around and be all "but the law" and point to the fire risk.

Fine, bad example. The point being, people light fireworks in places with extreme fire risk. And don't you dare tell them they cannot. None of your business is the kind response

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Post by aidenn0 »

waltbosz wrote: post #415
aidenn0 wrote: post #363

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I haven't lived in Indiana in over 20 years, but is the law for mortars still: Legal to posses Legal to buy and sell Not legal to use That was always a bit silly to me. Stores would even have you sign a waiver that you weren't going to use them in Indiana.

There is a fireworks store near me in Pennsylvania that is off I-95 at maybe the first exit over the Delaware line. When you enter the building, you go into an atrium with two doors that go into two separate sub-stores divided by a wall. In the atrium, they check your driver's license. If you have a Pennsylvania license, you have to enter the store that only sells non-explosive, non-aerial fireworks (no rockets, mort…

In one of the MD boarder counties (Montgomery maybe?) it at least used to (and may still) be illegal to posses even sparklers or fountains. And they were serious about enforcing it. Cops would stake out VA fireworks stands and radio in license plates to cops in-county. Since even possession is illegal, it's a confiscation and fine the moment you cross the boarder.

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Post by foobarchu »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #362
gosub100 wrote: post #271

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It's funny that CAs own "environmental" laws actually created the tinder box conditions in the forest. So their solution is more laws, of course.

The premise of this statement is wrong.

I'd argue the conclusion is wrong. The premise, that places like CA are currently such tinderboxes as a direct result of preventing natural burning and continuing to develop in areas that need to burn to stay healthy, is extremely well supported.

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Post by 0x0000000 »

bengale wrote: post #227
skybrian wrote: post #64

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Doesn't help in California because people buy them in Nevada and resell them. Apparently that's easier to do nowadays due to the Internet? https://oaklandside.org/2026/07/01/illegal-fireworks-police-... > Despite strict fireworks bans in many cities, including Oakland, they’ve become a year-round nuisance in the Bay Area. And one of the primary ways they’re spread is through the enterprising but illegal work of small…

When I was in North Carolina on a trip the chap I was visiting said I'd know if I was crossing over to South Carolina when I saw all the fireworks shops as it was illegal to sell them in NC but not SC. Funny to see. (No idea what the actual rules are, just repeating what he told me)

Same in the NY/NJ/PA tri-state. Ahead of the 4th a NY state trooper sits in the parking lot of the Phantom Fireworks in Matamoras, presumably calling in NY plates for their buddy to go pull over.

We just took the back roads home instead of the highway.

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Post by _heimdall »

rbanffy wrote: post #380
_heimdall wrote: post #343

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> It could be solved by making it a criminal offense to materially mislead the public while holding office The problem would be how you define that in law and enforce it in the real world. Its already hard enough to legally distinguish between a lie, misrepresentation, and someone telling what is wrong but they honestly believe to be true given what they know at the time. How do you define that? And for politicians w…

> Its already hard enough to legally distinguish between a lie, misrepresentation, and someone telling what is wrong but they honestly believe to be true You can’t and you shouldn’t. People in power need to be careful with the information they give the people they serve. If it’s wrong at the time it was communicated, too bad. The person should have been more careful.

I'm not sure how that could work. If we can't distinguish between those how would you write enforceable laws or regulations?

Its all well and good to have a blanket statement that politicians shouldn't lie. It entirely different to codify such an aspiration.

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