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Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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I wish you would have to life one with that bureaucratic nightmare / crony employment program that you put on your fellow human. I have no stronger curse.. The eu had one job - to protect europe, from war, from statesized companies like china and get it competitive again before the innovators take itall. It has failed in all fields.

...What? I live in the EU. There is no war in the EU, that's surely a success by your own count. And it's cute to mention several "jobs" as one job. Perhaps you would like to narrow down your argument, if there is one.

Ukrainewar is a direct result of the change by trade policies. Libya, syria and algeria are barely stable. major industries are dying or migrating away, and the solution to this is firesales of smaller industries to incentivize "partners" to lower trade barriers and sell for a limited timemore from major industries.

The solution of choice in tech seems to be rent-seeking by institutions. The eu is dying and good riddance. Maybe its successor can be better.

Reality be the absolute and not a social construct at all. Either deal with it or become another USSR that tries to wing it while lying to itself to the bitter end.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Back around 1982, fireworks were a big no in my neighborhood. My friend across the street had some bottle rockets and he decided to shoot one off in the middle of the street. We didn't have a bottle to put it in to light it, so we wedged it between two bricks. He lit it and a split second before it went off, it tilted to point directly down the street. It fired off blazing down the middle of the road. At the same tim…

Yea, I think OP is wearing rose-colored glasses. I'm 50 and I don't remember any time in my life when anything bigger than sparklers or tiny firecrackers were legal. To my young eyes, they've always been illegal. The differences now are 1. a more belligerent and careless population and 2. plummeting police enforcement. You can read a lot of comments here from places (mostly CA) where people care to do the right thing…

Just to add to the anecdotes:

I'm in my late 40s. I grew up on an island in Washington state. Truly commercial-grade fireworks (the kind that professionals would launch for an audience of thousands) were banned by that time, but plenty of fireworks that would be categorized as "commercial-grade" today were sold publicly by multiple vendors every year.

I love fireworks now, but my first memory of them was terrifying. I would have been about 3 to 5. My parents drove our VW bus to a nearby beach to watch the local display. It was total madness. Teenagers threw explosive fireworks onto and underneath our car.

Even a lot of the smaller home-use fireworks back then had hilariously unsafe behaviour. I remember in particular one called something like "Saturn Missile Battery". It was a box that launched a 10x10 grid of 100 whistling, finless plastic rockets (each about 4-5cm x 5-6mm), with each rocket exploding when their propellant ran out. Because they had no stabilization, they would fly in all directions, change direction in flight, etc. When my dad set it off, one of them literally flew right over our heads into the house and exploded in the basement.

My experience is that outside of Seattle, enforcement of fireworks restrictions is pretty lax. For example, if one watches the professional display in Tacoma, one will also see most of Dash Point / Browns Point continuously lit up by fireworks that are unambiguously well outside the legal restrictions.

I agree that a lot of people are reckless, and it's just a matter of time before it causes a high-profile disaster somewhere in the state. But I also agree with the parent comment that it's such an ingrained part of American culture that it would be very hard to change - at least until there's a local disaster that gives people a visceral feeling for the danger.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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...What? I live in the EU. There is no war in the EU, that's surely a success by your own count. And it's cute to mention several "jobs" as one job. Perhaps you would like to narrow down your argument, if there is one.

Ukrainewar is a direct result of the change by trade policies. Libya, syria and algeria are barely stable. major industries are dying or migrating away, and the solution to this is firesales of smaller industries to incentivize "partners" to lower trade barriers and sell for a limited timemore from major industries. The solution of choice in tech seems to be rent-seeking by institutions. The eu is dying and good ridd…

You are completely wrong in everything you just wrote.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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My guess because we just read of the seizure stories online but 95% of dogs are ok with it. Mine is. There's a limit to dealing with edge cases that most people have. Not saying this is how I feel or act though.

no, 95% of dogs are not okay with it. 95% of the dogs in your home are okay with it. this study from Psychology Today finds that 83% of dogs freak out when they hear loud noises: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/canine-corner/202202...

Our dog is not ok with fireworks or gunshots. He either goes into the basement (normally off limits) or into the bedroom (mostly off limits) when he hears them.

However it also took him quite a few years to get over his fear of thunder.

I think he'll survive even though he'd be included in the 83%.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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When I was a kid you could get actual m80's that were like a quarter stick of dynamite. Now you can only get little firecrackers that don't even blow up little green army men. It's really dependent on your state laws. My state allows fireworks, so you can get most things but they are very limited in size and explosive content. What it amounts to is that most cities/counties don't enforce their existing laws in this a…

> actual m80's that were like a quarter stick of dynamite Not even close. A military M80 [0] is ~5g of flash powder, an inconsequential amount of low-explosive albeit enough to seriously injure yourself. The consumer "M80" are even weaker. These are used to simulate real explosions by the military. The smallest standardized military demolition charge contains ~110g of TNT, in a similar small cylindrical format. There…

Btw, flash powder (at least the pyrotechnic variety as opposed to that used for camera flashes) is actually a primary high explosive.

Primary = easy to activate, doesn't need an explosive initiator. High explosive = detonates rather than deflagrates.

And for bonus points, most flash powder is self-confining in very small quantities. Means a little pile of powder will detonate even if not enclosed.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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According to what logic?

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/logic this one.

Ah, the one where invalid assumptions lead to invalid conclusions. Got it. Explains the invalidity of your conclusions.

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freedom loving Democratic socialist here, this stance is very St Thomas Aquinas of you. let people continue to do the things you did without pulling up the ladder behind you. it's just for a night or two, the animals will live.

Everything needs to have a reason. Fireworks don't have a good reason, even ones that are professionally done. Just because its tradition doesn't mean it should be auto accepted.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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freedom loving Democratic socialist here, this stance is very St Thomas Aquinas of you. let people continue to do the things you did without pulling up the ladder behind you. it's just for a night or two, the animals will live.

Everything needs to have a reason. Fireworks don't have a good reason, even ones that are professionally done. Just because its tradition doesn't mean it should be auto accepted.

Agreed. No video games or sex before marriage either.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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freedom loving Democratic socialist here, this stance is very St Thomas Aquinas of you. let people continue to do the things you did without pulling up the ladder behind you. it's just for a night or two, the animals will live.

Everything needs to have a reason. Fireworks don't have a good reason, even ones that are professionally done. Just because its tradition doesn't mean it should be auto accepted.

No, everything does not need to have a reason! "Just because" or "I just wanted to" do not inherently make the activity useless, nor mean that it should be discontinued.

Re: Delta flight hit by firework while landing at Midway Airport on Fourth of July

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Everything needs to have a reason. Fireworks don't have a good reason, even ones that are professionally done. Just because its tradition doesn't mean it should be auto accepted.

Agreed. No video games or sex before marriage either.

If there is actual harm being done, i.e reason to ban them, then sure.

In the case of video games, I ironically agree on ban for kids on video games with online multiplayer. Kids should be forced to socialize in person in way greater ration that their online time to see that online personas are not real

In the case of sex before marriage, the opposite is probably true.

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