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Alternative for Germany (Alternativ für Deutschland, AfD) is a party that wants to revoke citizenship of brown people and expel them from the country. There are very good reasons they should be banned. Their opposition to chat control is completely incidental.
Chat Control 1.0 and 2.0 Explained
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
I keep trying to explain to people that private companies harvesting your data, while not good, is done solely for the purpose of trying to get you to voluntarily buy more toilet bowl cleaner. Meanwhile, Governments can take away your freedom, block your right to speech, ruin your entire life, seize your private assets/wealth, take away your children, deport you, etc...all depending on how the cultural wind is blowin…
Your comment seems to frame this as a "two sides issue" as if it was a see-saw and you can only move back and forth between one side and the other with no room for nuance or alternate directions. Governments can do a lot of things that hurt you, this is a consequence of having power. Giant Corporations can also hurt you because they also have power. In general I would agree that say, walmart, is mostly interested in…
False dichotomy, they are the same Lernaean Hydra.
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CSA makes ppl lose all logic, so is used to justify illogical things. Reminder that none of this has any evidence that it helps CSA, but nobody cares about the actual children.
I feel like the world cares more about stopping the spread of CSAM than it does the actual abusive actions against children.
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The system we got for this is called parenting. And there is a saying where I grew up: you need a village to raise a kid, I feel like we lost track of that and feel the issues of that now. Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula.
>Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula. And Germans and Europeans looked at that and thought the best place for her is leading the EU?! Remind me again how she got elected in that position? Because it seems like the entire EU population knew her being infamous for that, except for the few elites who appointed her there via "democratic p…
I am not against EU cooperation, mainly in external security and free market economy. But the system we have is not very democratic, and def not very representative of people. They act like demigods, elected by parliament with no real consequences of their actions.
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the party program doesn't state it, but some high figures were caught talking about it. E.g. Björn Höcke and Maximilian Krah. They did not mention "brown people" as gp states, but called out people foreign to the local culture.
What's so undemocratic if current inhabitants of some land do not want foreign culture influence in their society?
Throwing out citizens because of some birth attribute they can not influence could be seen as inhumane. Would you think it's ok to throw out everybody with a certain eye color?
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
The system we got for this is called parenting. And there is a saying where I grew up: you need a village to raise a kid, I feel like we lost track of that and feel the issues of that now. Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula.
>Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula. And Germans and Europeans looked at that and thought the best place for her is leading the EU?! Remind me again how she got elected in that position? Because it seems like the entire EU population knew her being infamous for that, except for the few elites who appointed her there via "democratic p…
Re: Chat Control 1.0 and 2.0 Explained
#279Earlier quoted context omitted.
The system we got for this is called parenting. And there is a saying where I grew up: you need a village to raise a kid, I feel like we lost track of that and feel the issues of that now. Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula.
>Btw, von der leyen is trying to get stuff like this written down as laws since 2009, it got her the nickname Zensursula. And Germans and Europeans looked at that and thought the best place for her is leading the EU?! Remind me again how she got elected in that position? Because it seems like the entire EU population knew her being infamous for that, except for the few elites who appointed her there via "democratic p…
Also most of the EU population don’t know her for anything at all. I’d be surprised if more than 50% of Europeans could name her.
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#280How do they scan e2e encrypted messages? Will they force apps/OSes to have master keys/institutional backdoors to have access to the private keys?
They could make all e2ee chats, group chats. Where instead of a 1-1 chat between two people or many-many chat between a lot of people, they do 1-1+1 or many-many+1, where the +1 is the government. Technically the underlaying company or anyone else still won't have access to messages and e2ee won't be "broken", except for the fact that there's one more party in the key exchange. Or they scan at the edge on the user's…
Scan on end user's devices, but never transmit the result of that. Only report it ON the device itself to the user. A false positive when you send a pic of your naked kid to your spouse might show a warning icon asking you if you are sure you want to send it.
Also: for minors (Who is a minor not determined by some central age verification, but by me specifying in the Apple/Android family settings who my kids are) you could make sending certain things it blocking or subject to parent approval. E.g. if my daughter is tricked into sending nudes, it's something that's handled the same as if she wants to install an app or visit a specific web page.
No encryption is ever backdoored. Anything beyond this, e.g. reporting any user actions, would be allowed only through a court, just like any wiretapping always was.