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We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by Culonavirus »

brookst wrote: post #76
gck1 wrote: post #13

I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time . I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever. This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.

I pay $200/mo because my opus usage alone is >$10k/mo at api rates. Do you think I’m making a mistake?

I read posts like these all the time and I keep wondering when they'll begin to tighten the screws on the prosumers. I think most, if not all, $200/mo individual accounts are blasting high multiples of that amount in tokens. I mean we know that doesn't work with current inference costs, not by a longshot, so I guess this is just a way to pad their numbers like "look, we're growing our user base!" while they can still somewhat hide the "actually, we're hemorrhaging money on inference" in their accounting.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by sroussey »

psyclobe wrote: post #104
leobuskin wrote: post #102

@anthropic, can you finally add $800-$1000 per month plan and allow us to work instead of tracking your weekly changes and dramas? I think, we (individuals, small-medium biz, first of all) did our best to help you train the model like Fable. Enterprise-level lockdown (and API costs define this) is... unfair? I mean, we all knew that you all will just use us, but it's AI, right? For people, right? Right? The only reas…

Seriously, just let me fucking pay to get steady service 24/7.

Use console and pay API rates. Very predictable.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

seer wrote: post #65

Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…

I like super powers because I can be more in the loop editing and understanding the plan. Letting fable loose is genuinely impressive, and probably perfect for vibe coding, but I can’t be that far away from the plan and steps for code that matters.

As for being great for vibe coding, it’s cool but I can’t justify that kind of cost for throwaway code. At this point I’ve had good experiences using fable to review code, but I’m totally content with opus for all of my workflows still. If fable was the same price I’d switch (for projects not involving biology, at least), but I’d still use something like super powers to stay in the loop.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

AndyNemmity wrote: post #124
Culonavirus wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people just need to complicate things as a state of their natural being. What a tremendous waste of time.

That's funny, cause I'd argue superpowers barely does anything, and you need a much more complex setup to gain value.

I find it very useful. What do you use that’s better?

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by isodev »

somenameforme wrote: post #81

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the…

I tried it but the difference to Opus didn’t seem to justify the extra cost and stress around these limits.

The Max plan at 180€/month excl VAT already comes up for budget review every time. Not sure any sort of increase will be tolerated at all.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by donw »

nevi-me wrote: post #127
somenameforme wrote: post #81

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the…

I maximised usage and have reached the limit. I feel like I did 2 week's worth of hobby work over the last few days. I got Fable to write multiple plans, spent a great part of the weekend reviewing them. Then with superpowers I left must of those plans executing with little intervention over the past few days. I struggled to get Opus to just keep going without trying to convince me that it's late.

I'm really curious, what sort of work you were having it do such that you could execute multiple days of work with minimal supervision.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by zeafoamrun »

Why don't they just continue to give you Fable access but have it use quota at 4x or 8x so they at least let people on plans continue to use it, even a little?

I'm already using it judiciously because I tried ultracode with it and it ate my 5h quota while only getting halfway through the problem.

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