The drug dealer sample strategy seems to work good for them.
Does it? Maybe. But I've grown weary of it. It feels like I'm in a relationship with a mercurial partner, never quite knowing where I stand.
We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#92If they pair this with a reset, then it will be good news. Otherwise we all just rushed to use our quota before the July 7th deadline for nothing. Corollary: use your quota now because a reset seems likely.
I used up all my Fable credits over the weekend. Looks like mine just reset today.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#93Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets t…
> Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true.
That's not how any of this works.
Anthropic is playing the long game; they're not going make a short-sighted decision just so they announce a profit for one quarter, which doesn’t mean much because it won’t be a sustainable profit since they're going to need to spend a ton of money on training and compute over the next few months.
That's why they did a G funding round for $14 billion in February and $65 billion in May.
I suspect one reason for switching Fable to API usage for the near future is they don't have enough compute for their enterprise customers and every hobbyist on their $20/month Pro plan, 80% of which don’t need Fable 5 anyway but that won't stop them from using it as much as they can.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Subscription is ~$200/month. When I tried running on tokens it was ~$500/day for the same usage pattern. My guess is my usage is atypically high, but even if the average equivalent is $100-250/day you can get a sense of how much Anthropic is subsidizing subscriptions as a loss leader to lock market share. IMHO this is a doomed strategy since open models will get into a long tail of parity and they’ll ultimately essen…
What makes you think the API costs are "the true price" and anywhere near their inference costs? Also what percentage of users do you think actually maxes out their subscription? I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.
> I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.
Agreed.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#95I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer ex…
I'm tired too. I'll switch to OpenAI if Sol is available on subscription models.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed, but let's not forget to put at least some of the blame on the Trump administration for the export control fiasco.
They begged publicly, multiple times to be regulated. This is before even mentioning the gross exaggeration of their model's dangerous capabilities.
I don't think that exculpates the Trump administration for its arbitrary and capricious use of export controls, an ill-suited legal mechanism, without reasonable process or justification - thereby forcing Anthropic to scramble.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#97I am using Opis 4.8 xhigh, in OMP.sh coding agent (full agent built on Pi), with Matt Pocock Skills installed.
I don’t see a particular bump in code quality from Fable 5. In fact, it feels less reliable to me than my current setup. No sure why I am not seeing what everybody else is seeing.
Perhaps OMP/Pi (head and shoulders better than Claude Code) + Matt Pocock Skills already encode all the agentic improvements Fable has?
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#98I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer ex…
Agreed, but let's not forget to put at least some of the blame on the Trump administration for the export control fiasco.
Anthropic literally asked for it.
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#99Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…
(Not a Claude user) What is "superpowers"?
Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12
#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you need to consider how much dev mindshare you get from the loss-leader. Claude has grown at an insane rate. They brought vibe-coding mainstream. At some point they might decide they have enough demand and inertia from enterprise to reduce the subsidy. But to say “it’s doomed” really misses the fact that it has already been immensely successful.
We can switch in a heartbeat to a competitor, what kept us to Claude was that it had better models for a while. Closing Fable off means they are squarely inferior now. For me Opus 4.8 was a slow model with a strong habit of talking down to me in an obnoxious way that would not be possible to prompt away. GPT 5.5 is now my main driver for serious work.
I use them all https://github.com/yehosef/llm-tools