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We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by somenameforme »

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the typical case.

I suppose it benefits people whose weekly reset is sometime between now and the 12th? Feels like vibe management, because I find this part of the promo more annoying than not.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by gck1 »

brookst wrote: post #76
gck1 wrote: post #13

I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time . I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever. This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.

I pay $200/mo because my opus usage alone is >$10k/mo at api rates. Do you think I’m making a mistake?

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#83

Post by phinnaeus »

somenameforme wrote: post #81

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the…

> I can't imagine that's many people

Well, I don't know how many people it is but I certainly haven't bothered to use it except once or twice. What's the point in getting used to it as a daily driver when it won't be available in perpetuity?

But in any event, you're still right that it won't affect those of us in that camp.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#84

Post by dboreham »

freedomben wrote: post #11

The opacity and unpredictability of Anthropic is really starting to become more than just an annoyance. I'm glad they're extending access, but the roller coaster is really starting to cause whiplash. If they're eventually going to add Fable to the subscription plan, I wish they'd say something about that now, or at least confirm if they don't plan to for awhile. The feeling I get is they don't want to make any announ…

They have an IPO to launch, so they're not going to do that.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#85

Post by dboreham »

gck1 wrote: post #13

I have a really hard time understanding how anyone is ready to pay $200/mo to be put on such a rollercoaster all the time . I've used fable, it's great. But nothing beats predictability - ever. This truly feels like some form of emotional abuse/manipulation at this point.

I pay $200/mo and they provide me a tool that writes all the code I want. Seems like a great deal to me.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#86

Post by replwoacause »

I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer experience.

Seriously, all OAI needs to do at this point is just release GPT 5.6, have it be a solid model and then not jerk it out of the hands of their customers, and they're going to eat Anthropic's lunch.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#87

Post by andxor »

user3939382 wrote: post #54
nickandbro wrote: post #38

Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets t…

Subscription is ~$200/month. When I tried running on tokens it was ~$500/day for the same usage pattern. My guess is my usage is atypically high, but even if the average equivalent is $100-250/day you can get a sense of how much Anthropic is subsidizing subscriptions as a loss leader to lock market share. IMHO this is a doomed strategy since open models will get into a long tail of parity and they’ll ultimately essen…

What makes you think the API costs are "the true price" and anywhere near their inference costs? Also what percentage of users do you think actually maxes out their subscription?

I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#88

Post by mil22 »

replwoacause wrote: post #86

I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer ex…

Agreed, but let's not forget to put at least some of the blame on the Trump administration for the export control fiasco.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by nadermx »

replwoacause wrote: post #86

I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer ex…

Sure not the best user experience. But maybe they thought compute was gonna be more, or maybe fable helped them optimize under load.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by jaykru »

mil22 wrote: post #88
replwoacause wrote: post #86

I can honestly say that as a paying customer, I'm getting a bit tired of being jerked around by this company. It's on again, off again. Snip snap snip. And by the way, telling people there's a deadline so they all scramble to use their "Fable allowances" before being cut off, only to then be told "just kidding, here's 5 more days" without getting a usage reset is just another frustrating and disappointing customer ex…

Agreed, but let's not forget to put at least some of the blame on the Trump administration for the export control fiasco.

They begged publicly, multiple times to be regulated. This is before even mentioning the gross exaggeration of their model's dangerous capabilities.
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