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We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

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Post by eli_gottlieb »

nickandbro wrote: post #38

Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets t…

> In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex.

IME Codex had a bit of a big head/ego about writing what it thinks I ought to want rather than what I actually ask for, and I've had to spend some time cleaning up its slop.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#102

Post by leobuskin »

@anthropic, can you finally add $800-$1000 per month plan and allow us to work instead of tracking your weekly changes and dramas? I think, we (individuals, small-medium biz, first of all) did our best to help you train the model like Fable. Enterprise-level lockdown (and API costs define this) is... unfair? I mean, we all knew that you all will just use us, but it's AI, right? For people, right? Right?

The only reason this is happening -> someone (US gov?) decided that it's time to bail out those who would inevitably die within a year or two otherwise, middlemen.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#103

Post by matheusmoreira »

try-working wrote: post #72
seer wrote: post #65

Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…

This is an interesting comment because it makes me want to ask the question, what is the use for fable then? For me, GPT 5.4 is enough when using recursive-mode. I do appreciate GPT 5.5 Pro for some larger research, architecture, planning tasks though. I think that's what Fable is for. A very small % of total work.

> what is the use for fable then?

Cybersecurity hardening. The one thing they don't allow the model to do.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#104

Post by psyclobe »

leobuskin wrote: post #102

@anthropic, can you finally add $800-$1000 per month plan and allow us to work instead of tracking your weekly changes and dramas? I think, we (individuals, small-medium biz, first of all) did our best to help you train the model like Fable. Enterprise-level lockdown (and API costs define this) is... unfair? I mean, we all knew that you all will just use us, but it's AI, right? For people, right? Right? The only reas…

Seriously, just let me fucking pay to get steady service 24/7.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#105

Post by ahofmann »

chvid wrote: post #99
seer wrote: post #65

Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…

(Not a Claude user) What is "superpowers"?

https://github.com/obra/superpowers

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#106

Post by edg5000 »

alwillis wrote: post #94
andxor wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think the API costs are "the true price" and anywhere near their inference costs? Also what percentage of users do you think actually maxes out their subscription? I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think.

> I suspect they're subsidizing a lot less than people think. Agreed.

We can look at openrouter GLM 5.2 prices I think to get a rough idea about the pure inference cost (with margin). They are probably running on simmilar hardware. Although scale helps Anthropic probably.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#107

Post by [deleted] »

chvid wrote: post #99
seer wrote: post #65

Getting on and off fable this week has been quite interesting. For my personal work stream (big terraform monorepo, hundreds of states) I’ve using mostly superpowers to do heavy / quality work. But with fable, I tried just telling it what to do, and it produced roughly the same results without a big structured back and forth that I was accustomed to. Then after using up all my fable allowance I figured let’s see if o…

(Not a Claude user) What is "superpowers"?

[deleted]

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#108

Post by AuthAuth »

leobuskin wrote: post #102

@anthropic, can you finally add $800-$1000 per month plan and allow us to work instead of tracking your weekly changes and dramas? I think, we (individuals, small-medium biz, first of all) did our best to help you train the model like Fable. Enterprise-level lockdown (and API costs define this) is... unfair? I mean, we all knew that you all will just use us, but it's AI, right? For people, right? Right? The only reas…

American Tech companies hate their users

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#109

Post by nickandbro »

alwillis wrote: post #93
nickandbro wrote: post #38

Loosing Fable July 12th and getting usage cut by a third post July 13th is going to be rough. Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. In the mean time, I will gladly switch to Codex. Their Pro plan gives you amble usage and only runs close when you are using the fast mode. And even if you run out of credits, they have given users so many credit resets t…

> Looks like all the reporting about Anthropic trying their earnest to turn a profit this quarter is true. That's not how any of this works. Anthropic is playing the long game; they're not going make a short-sighted decision just so they announce a profit for one quarter, which doesn’t mean much because it won’t be a sustainable profit since they're going to need to spend a ton of money on training and compute over t…

> which doesn’t mean much because it won’t be a sustainable profit since they're going to need to spend a ton of money on training and compute over the next few months.

Never was arguing that it would be a sustained profit, just that they are. Most likely for the reasons you just listed.

Re: We're extending access to Fable 5 on all paid plans through July 12

#110

Post by matheusmoreira »

phinnaeus wrote: post #83
somenameforme wrote: post #81

Does this affect anybody? It seems they didn't reset your Fable usage so this only applies to people who didn't hit their 50%-of-plan limit with Fable and I can't imagine that's many people given how this thing eats through tokens like that's its job. On Pro I generally could not complete a single plan+execution cycle without hitting my token cap, so that 50% of weekly limit got eaten up fast and I assume that's the…

> I can't imagine that's many people Well, I don't know how many people it is but I certainly haven't bothered to use it except once or twice. What's the point in getting used to it as a daily driver when it won't be available in perpetuity? But in any event, you're still right that it won't affect those of us in that camp.

It's still good for code review though. Would've been better were it not for the obnoxious cybersecurity filters that prevent the model from hardening the code.

Lots of people are trying to get the most value out of it before it goes away.

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