Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025) • Hacker News Board

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by iLemming » Mon, Jul 06, 2026, 8:03 PM UTC

detourdog wrote: post #232

iLemming wrote: post #219

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Pfff. Try food. People naively say "weed is a gateway to other drugs", meaning cocaine. In practice, the biggest drug it opens the highway to is food. A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket. Food is the wors…

My comment was not a gateway drug reference is was intended to point out that a drug users have a heart attack is often using cocaine

That still will be the bad eating habits and junk food. Bad food kills more people than cocaine. With or without weed's help.

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by Thraway198 » Tue, Jul 07, 2026, 1:35 AM UTC

rascul wrote: post #241

iLemming wrote: post #219

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Pfff. Try food. People naively say "weed is a gateway to other drugs", meaning cocaine. In practice, the biggest drug it opens the highway to is food. A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket. Food is the wors…

> A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket. I'd like to say that's a little bit of an exaggeration but I also feel like a joint and $25 for taco bell at 1am wouldn't help my case...

it is not an exaggeration lol

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by nephihaha » Tue, Jul 07, 2026, 12:38 PM UTC

Thraway198 wrote: post #258

nephihaha wrote: post #257

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Some of those Canadian people probably did not have a good business plan, but it is clear the British government doesn't like the idea of a small grower with a few plants. Even though that should be allowed as much as it is with brewing.

Growing is totally separate from selling though. I don't know about the UK case but in Canada, there was intense opposition from Conservatives towards any amount of pot being allowed to be homegrown. There were Conservative politicians who got up and publicly said that toddlers would die cause they'd eat marijuana plants grown by their parents! I wouldn't blame the business plans so much. A lot of them applied for li…

Not completely. You could get a market gardener type scenario where people could sell some plants on a smaller scale. Some of the best beer comes from small breweries. Surely the same applies here?

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by MrSkelter » Tue, Jul 07, 2026, 1:00 PM UTC

embedding-shape wrote: post #5

> researchers were unable to account for several potential confounding factors including the duration and amount of cannabis use or the use of tobacco or other drugs. Personally I'd wager a bet it's the tobacco and/or smoking that is the harmful part, but it kind of dumbfounds me they failed to account for "details" like "duration and amount of cannabis use", that feels like a very vital thing to control for. Nothing…

You make some reasonable points but the implication, that cannabis is as benign as water, is farcical.

The popularity of cannabis doesn’t justify pretending it’s entirely harmless.

Consumed as an inhalant it’s impossible to claim that it won’t have similar negative impacts to putting anything in our lungs which isn’t clean air.

Consumed orally the harm will be in the dose. But there no evidence that the doses people consume for their pleasurable effect are within the safe range long term.

I am sure based on the available evidence cannabis is less harmful than alcohol, but it’s so unproductive that any research on its harms is immediately shouted down by fans who want to pretend it’s “water”.

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by Thraway198 » Tue, Jul 07, 2026, 3:01 PM UTC

nephihaha wrote: post #263

Thraway198 wrote: post #258

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Growing is totally separate from selling though. I don't know about the UK case but in Canada, there was intense opposition from Conservatives towards any amount of pot being allowed to be homegrown. There were Conservative politicians who got up and publicly said that toddlers would die cause they'd eat marijuana plants grown by their parents! I wouldn't blame the business plans so much. A lot of them applied for li…

Not completely. You could get a market gardener type scenario where people could sell some plants on a smaller scale. Some of the best beer comes from small breweries. Surely the same applies here?

Oh yeah, it would. I think in Canada it will eventually open up quite a bit.

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by dyauspitr » Tue, Jul 07, 2026, 8:25 PM UTC

CaptWillard wrote: post #252

dyauspitr wrote: post #132

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Definitely. The healthy sport academic types stay pretty far away from any kind of mind altering drugs.

I've known a lot of academics and more than a few (adult) athletes, and in my experience, cannabis is quite popular in both crowds.

Generally when they get much older in my experience and pretty infrequently. Most problematic cases start before they are 25.