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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Post by nephihaha »

Thraway198 wrote: post #167
nephihaha wrote: post #74

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I am aware of someone who does both, because I overheard someone discussing it with him. Cannabis will retain a black market when it becomes a government cash cow.

I live in a legalized Marijauna country and there is no black market. The prices in the legal stores are actually lower than the former black market prices.

In the UK currently, an estimated third of cigarettes are illegal, because of the high duty on tobacco. What will probably happen here is that the British government will do the same if cannabis is legalised. They are already starting ensuring that only they and their friends can supply medical cannabis, meaning that we don't have a proper open market before it's even started.

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Post by joquarky »

stringfood wrote: post #185
bluGill wrote: post #184

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Science agrees with no alcohol. The other drugs are not studied enough to be sure but things point in that direction. I can have fun without drugs.

>I can have fun without drugs. Yes!!! I love this approach! unironically

Not everyone has a low ACE score and/or the means to dig out of a deep hole.

The US a survival society where the first time you trip, you're fixed to that level unless you have benefactors.

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Post by LastTrain »

yasaheblasa wrote: post #163

I was under the impression that breathing in burnt particulate of any sort was associated with serious cardiovascular risk? I would think a significant portion of cannabis users ingest smoke very frequently or at least second hand smoke more frequently than people who do not engage at all with a subculture that is largely smoke oriented.

No there is something special about cannabis smoke that makes it perfectly fine to inhale daily /s

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Post by sscaryterry »

goodroot wrote: post #85
shevy-java wrote: post #45

What I find fascinating is how smokers rationalize their behaviour, e. g. "weed is harmless". When they compare it to fentanyl or heroine/cocaine, but compounds are never intrinsically harmless. But you can not get that message across most folks who are smoking weed. It's a somewhat similar issue, to some extent, when you look at sumo wrestlers. These have a significantly lower life expectancy on average than the res…

There's a saying: don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. The same human mind that rationalizes the intake of substances is the same one that rationalizes social networks, junk food, eating meat, whatever it is. I wouldn't be so quick to condescend. At some point in time, it's important to realize that not everyone optimizes for longevity, correctness, rationalism, and so on, and they just simply do what mak…

That just sucks, sorry to hear that mate.

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Post by LastTrain »

beezle wrote: post #178
basisword wrote: post #114

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>> for the anxiety crowd: don't buy street weed and avoid sativas I don't think blanket advice like this is helpful. For me indicas increase my anxiety significantly while sativas do the opposite.

For clean weed - not laced with anything - sativas are more prone to causing anxiety. I doubt one will find any kind of study proving this, it is anecdotal - myself, friends and the internet at large. While not universally true, it seems that many of the sativas for sale are very high THC which probably is a primary factor. Other factors are terpenes, though there is still a lot of debate on whether it these are real…

You talk like dispensary employees who are, in general, dishing out recommendations based on folklore and personal experiences. The only true advice is YMMV - there are no controlled studies on what different “stains” do, or even a formal definition of what a strain is for they matter.

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Post by watwut »

esikich wrote: post #204
swed420 wrote: post #99

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If people are this concerned about heart health, they'd be wise to continue a zero-covid lifestyle into 2026 and beyond, since each re-infection (which vaccines don't prevent) increases the risk of severe health outcomes, including heart-related issues among lots of others. Yet I only see about .5-1% of the population in my area these days wearing any kind of mask/N95 respirator in public.

A - masks don't protect you, they protect others, B - what % of the population leaves the house when they feel sick enough that they should wear a mask?

B - a lot of them, actually. You see sick people going to work or shops all the time. And most them them see themselves as some kind of "pushing through it" tough hero.

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Post by [deleted] »

LastTrain wrote: post #215
beezle wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For clean weed - not laced with anything - sativas are more prone to causing anxiety. I doubt one will find any kind of study proving this, it is anecdotal - myself, friends and the internet at large. While not universally true, it seems that many of the sativas for sale are very high THC which probably is a primary factor. Other factors are terpenes, though there is still a lot of debate on whether it these are real…

You talk like dispensary employees who are, in general, dishing out recommendations based on folklore and personal experiences. The only true advice is YMMV - there are no controlled studies on what different “stains” do, or even a formal definition of what a strain is for they matter.

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Post by Noaidi »

ses1984 wrote: post #102
Noaidi wrote: post #69

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No. This was about ten years ago. But not much has changed as I cannot get CAC score on Medicare even though they wanted to put me on statins. Cardiologist says I am fine. :/

They only cost about $100.

Can I have $100?

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Post by iLemming »

detourdog wrote: post #44
Dan_- wrote: post #15

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Exactly. Being unable to account for this covariate (tobacco use) pretty much invalidates this analysis. The odds ratio for tobacco use is basically the same (3x). Also, title needs a 2025.

Not to mention cocaine.

Pfff. Try food. People naively say "weed is a gateway to other drugs", meaning cocaine. In practice, the biggest drug it opens the highway to is food.

A stoner would smoke half-a-joint and then easily eat a pound of processed meat, then send a whole bag of chips down the hatch, washing it down with two or three pints of beer, and twenty minutes later will be eating ice cream directly from the bucket.

Food is the worst and most dangerous drug of modern human history. It has killed more animals, insects, and humans than any other drug. Cocaine compared to it is a kindergarten party.

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Post by swed420 »

esikich wrote: post #204
swed420 wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If people are this concerned about heart health, they'd be wise to continue a zero-covid lifestyle into 2026 and beyond, since each re-infection (which vaccines don't prevent) increases the risk of severe health outcomes, including heart-related issues among lots of others. Yet I only see about .5-1% of the population in my area these days wearing any kind of mask/N95 respirator in public.

A - masks don't protect you, they protect others, B - what % of the population leaves the house when they feel sick enough that they should wear a mask?

> A - masks don't protect you, they protect others

This is flat wrong, but also a demonstration of how far the Back To Normal propaganda propagated, because it's a common misconception. They protect both; especially at an N95 level of filtration.

> B - what % of the population leaves the house when they feel sick enough that they should wear a mask?

For starters, ~40% of COVID infections are asymptomatic (and still carry the same aforementioned long-term risks).

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