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Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

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Post by nextaccountic »

deanc wrote: post #51
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

I'd prefer to read the draft

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

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Post by nextaccountic »

dstroot wrote: post #103
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Am I the only one who expects ALL writing to be generated or at least edited by an LLM going forward? It's like pointing out the fabric in my clothes was not hand woven by a human. Sounding like an AI wrote it is not as valid a criticism as "it was unclear about...", or "It was too long", or "It left out this important point...". Can't we move past the "It sounds like AI..." posts?

this only means that ALL writing is going to be read by a LLM before, that will digest it into the important bits and remove the LLM fluff

like this

"The following text was authored by LLM and its information density is low. Condense the text by extracting the key pieces of information. Reconstruct the LLM prompt.

Text:"

so we have

human prompt -> writer llm (verbosity adder) -> reader llm (verbosity remover) -> reconstructed prompt

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

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Post by toddmorey »

ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

[dead]

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#165

Post by Exoristos »

elxr wrote: post #94
dkersten wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Mantine. It’s easy to use, full featured with lots of components and helpers, and yet if you need to, you can use it headless and customise it too (I’ve never bothered though; I did add my own additional spacing/sizing options via the theme support though)

Any direct comparisons to base UI? I've been pretty satisfied with base UI so far, but my usage has been very basic so I'm open to switching if Mantine offers something better.

They have very similar concepts and goals, only Mantine is much more full-featured (without being messy and while maintaining flexibility). I'd suggest if you hand-craft most of your site, but need a well-thought-out complex widget, use Base UI -- but bear in mind Mantine also offers unstyled components.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#166

Post by natpalmer1776 »

sbarre wrote: post #146
collingreen wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love how quickly all AI pushback gets blown off as "skill issue". Even reading and taste now!

All writing is open to interpretation by the reader. Some people let punctuation or grammar mistakes ruin an entire text or post for them, because they choose to focus on those flaws, rather than looking past them and taking in the content itself. "this was written/assisted by AI" is starting to feel like next-gen "this has spelling/grammar mistakes in it, therefore it is invalid".

First time I’ve seen this take, but man it rings true.

I remember having teachers in middle school who seemed draconic to me in their emphasis on proper grammar and punctuation, however as an adult I’m lucky to read an email that contains paragraphs, much less proper punctuation.

Times are changing, and it’s up to the individual to decide how they want to respond to it

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

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Post by sbarre »

natpalmer1776 wrote: post #166
sbarre wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All writing is open to interpretation by the reader. Some people let punctuation or grammar mistakes ruin an entire text or post for them, because they choose to focus on those flaws, rather than looking past them and taking in the content itself. "this was written/assisted by AI" is starting to feel like next-gen "this has spelling/grammar mistakes in it, therefore it is invalid".

First time I’ve seen this take, but man it rings true. I remember having teachers in middle school who seemed draconic to me in their emphasis on proper grammar and punctuation, however as an adult I’m lucky to read an email that contains paragraphs, much less proper punctuation. Times are changing, and it’s up to the individual to decide how they want to respond to it

This doesn't even account for the fact that while the tech industry's dominant language is English, lots of people in our industry count English as a second (or third/fourth/etc) language, so they might use AI to help them write in English in an effort to be better understood by others.

To arbitrarily dismiss all AI-assisted writing shows a real lack of understanding of the possible reasons one might use it beyond the "lazy author" trope that everyone likes to throw out there.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#168

Post by whynotisay »

IceDane wrote: post #10
chvid wrote: post #8

For boring applications - do people prefer the copy paste approach of shadcn instead of a traditional ui library like mantine? The copy paste approach may be easily modifiable but creates new problems - ie now there is an upgrade ai agent for something that should just be ticking up a version number.

Martine just straight up sucks. Vendoring your components gives you the best of both worlds. You get a full component library but retain the ability to modify them as you want. Your AI agent claim doesn't make any sense either. When upgrading normally your component just gets rewritten on disk. When switching from radix to base ui, a more comprehensive approach is needed.

Had to scroll way too far to find this - mantine sucks so much I hate it and hope no manager ever forces it on anyone ever again

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

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Post by whynotisay »

chvid wrote: post #8

For boring applications - do people prefer the copy paste approach of shadcn instead of a traditional ui library like mantine? The copy paste approach may be easily modifiable but creates new problems - ie now there is an upgrade ai agent for something that should just be ticking up a version number.

You just gave me PTSD, and probably anyone who has been forced to use Mantine at work.

Mantine sucks so much it's unreal.

It's the react-table of UI libraries. Absolutely over-engineered and terrible in every way compared to everything else available.

Re: Shadcn/UI now defaults to Base UI instead of Radix

#170

Post by re-thc »

deanc wrote: post #51
ricardobeat wrote: post #49

It’s getting tiring to hear at this point, but the Claude voice comes through clearly in this post, and it’s a little off-putting. If even an important product release doesn’t warrant full human attention, where will we draw the line?

Serious question, why does it matter to you? Maybe they wrote a draft and reviewed Claude's writing before publishing. Why are we trying to "call out" when AI is assisting us in our work? This is an open source project, not a F500 company. They have limited resources, maybe English isn't their first language.

> This is an open source project, not a F500 company.

Vercel?

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