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Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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I wonder about all the confounding effects. In my country (famous for cannabis to be easy to come by (for decades already), and I saw many smoke from age 16 up as I grew up in 90's, 00's). I have always felt that the heavy cannabis smokers had something to compensate; stress, unrest, impending depression, friction with parents. It was never the healthy sporty types with fulfilling relationships, good grades or a nice…

Definitely. The healthy sport academic types stay pretty far away from any kind of mind altering drugs.

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If I had to guess, this is also the appeal of many video games.

Absolutely. I have abused games this way, and the only way I can play them responsibly is physically present multiplayer.

Nothing more biological than looking for rewards.

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quite a few people I know consume edibles as the main form of cannabis. but it seems underrepresented in all the studies I've seen so far. as several others have pointed out, you would think the act of smoking would itself have nontrivial effects on health

I wonder if they're doing these studies, finding no significant effect, and just dropping them.

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post #73

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It's a fair assumption being a known potential cause of death. Of course I'm now assuming death is bad.

By that argumentation sport is bad and a potential death risk factor, it also elevates heart rate and blood pressure!

I think you'd be surprised how often doctors still say that

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post #27

I wonder about all the confounding effects. In my country (famous for cannabis to be easy to come by (for decades already), and I saw many smoke from age 16 up as I grew up in 90's, 00's). I have always felt that the heavy cannabis smokers had something to compensate; stress, unrest, impending depression, friction with parents. It was never the healthy sporty types with fulfilling relationships, good grades or a nice…

Definitely. The healthy sport academic types stay pretty far away from any kind of mind altering drugs.

not alcohol, they will use that no problem, they can handle it unlike others

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The data is from EMR records. The researchers stated themselves ~ “people should be more forthcoming with their doctors.” I don’t think anything meaningful can be concluded other than most people don’t like having the fact that they have done cocaine on their medical records.

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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post #66

for the anxiety crowd: don't buy street weed and avoid sativas about the 'study': I do not trust anything that comes out of meta studies given how many base studies are found to be either garbage or very lacking in controls. And without knowing an accurate life history it is hard to rule out or quantify damages done much earlier in life.

Any literature on this or is is just your gut?

What the literature definitely finds is that CBD ratio is crucial for anxiety (higher CBD = less anxiety). Some of the first lab experiments were pure THC and quite intense/unpleasant relative to what you'd get from a plant naturally "full spectrum." If you're ever in california, NY, Maryland, whatever then try something with 1:1 THC:CBD and maybe get some of the other CBs in there too.

[Strain sativa/indica can sort of be an indicator, but going by the dose of each active ingredient is the more scientific approach]

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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What I find fascinating is how smokers rationalize their behaviour, e. g. "weed is harmless". When they compare it to fentanyl or heroine/cocaine, but compounds are never intrinsically harmless. But you can not get that message across most folks who are smoking weed. It's a somewhat similar issue, to some extent, when you look at sumo wrestlers. These have a significantly lower life expectancy on average than the res…

people rarely compare cannabis to fentanyl they normally compare it to alcohol and tobacco...

Re: Cannabis users face substantially higher risk of heart attack (2025)

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Edible forms of cannabis raise heart rate and blood pressure substantially as well.

Yeah it raises heart rate and blood pressure bc it dilates your blood vessels. The raised HR/BP are to counter that so you keep pushing the same amount of O2 per unit time.

That's one of the reasons. The primary reason is THC is a partial CB1 receptor agonist - CB1 is abundant in the central and peripheral nervous systems - so it increases sympathetic nervous system activity and norepinephrine, both of which raise heart rate independent of vasodilation.
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