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Post by _factor »

bdavbdav wrote: post #236
valgaze wrote: post #4

Author says "I literally will not buy a car that does not support CarPlay." From July 2022: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/apple-carplay-could-be-a-tro ... Apple engineering manager Emily Schubert said 98% of new cars in the U.S. come with CarPlay installed. She delivered a shocking stat: 79% of U.S. buyers would only buy a car if it supported CarPlay. “It’s a must-have feature when shopping for a new vehicle,” Schu…

Not only does it irritate me not having it in a practical sense, it’s also an arrogance on behalf of the manufacturer. “We can do it better than iOS/Android”, or “We have a better reason to do it”. No, and No.

That’s just a line. More like, “We can collect our own data”, or “We can lock them in and collect subscription fees.”

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Post by throwaway27448 »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #153
throwaway27448 wrote: post #83

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Not exactly a great example as it's unnecessary and expensive to replace. Lots of other microprocessors actually make your car easier and safer to drive.

A TPMS doesn't make your car easier and safer to drive???

You can buy a tire gauge at a gas station for $10 and check your tires when you clean your car.

But then again, I am old enough perhaps to have been taught to regularly check your tires before driving to begin with.

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Post by Induane »

whateveracct wrote: post #218
Induane wrote: post #192

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Are there vehicles that support it in a way that isn't buggy? I have a few friends with it and I don't think I've been on a single ride with them without a glitch. Freezing interface, spontaneously jumping to regular Bluetooth, music playing but no actual volume, plugging into usb power causing some kind of mode-shift that makes the screen hang or briefly cease to work, all kinds of nonsense. Also kind of weirdly bad…

my mazda cx-5 has had no issues. it's an extension of my phone at this point. fun car to drive too. zoom zoom :)

Ooo they do look badass. Really pretty shape.

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Post by artisinal »

varenc wrote: post #66
spaqin wrote: post #65

As someone who only had 20+ year old cars and motorcycles, I don't see what's CarPlay supposed to solve? All I need is a Bluetooth-capable radio and a phone holder to display the navigation, so I can listen to my music and focus on driving. Phone doesn't need to be touched unless changing destinations. Do people seriously need to be constantly entertained while driving?

Carplay isn't about entertainment for me. It's just a vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.

I’m not a big fan of the dumbed down interface. Using the Music app on CarPlay is frustrating. I prefer operating the music app on my phone with a phone mount. Same goes for navigation apps. Finding a restaurant with pictures and reviews is so much faster on my phone.

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Post by artisinal »

al_borland wrote: post #137
intrasight wrote: post #99

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I do see the maps - on my phone. What does seeing them somewhere else add? It seems completely redundant to me.

The bigger screen is nice. The integration is also nice. I can push a button on my steering wheel to activate Siri to tell it where to go. Music controls on the wheel also pass through to CarPaly. I have a low res auxiliary screen to display added data (oil temp, weather, etc) and the music option will display music track data from CarPlay as well. So instead of trying to look at a tiny screen that’s clipped onto an…

With the exception of the screen size I can do all of that with my phone in a mount as well. But you shouldn’t be operating your phone while driving, not even with CarPlay. It’s illegal in many countries.

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Post by bdavbdav »

appden wrote: post #128
mynameisvlad wrote: post #101

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> The final major downside is having to switch apps out of navigation to control music then switch back, But... you don't. Tapping on the home button once more or swiping to the right on the app page reveals the home screen which has navigation and music together: https://devimages-cdn.apple.com/wwdc-services/images/D35E0E8... https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wgH6RZrtKkuAQkJUjfWW8V.jpg It even adapts to vertical scr…

Our CarPlay car has a small screen, so I prefer to keep navigation full screen most of the time. In split mode, it’s way too tiny for me, but I occasionally leave it there if I know my way around anyways. It’s definitely not a well designed experience.

Would this not be an issue with any interface if the screen is that small?

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Post by _factor »

dcrazy wrote: post #187
throwaway27448 wrote: post #83

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Not exactly a great example as it's unnecessary and expensive to replace. Lots of other microprocessors actually make your car easier and safer to drive.

TPMS has been mandatory in the U.S. since 2007. It turns out riding on under-inflated tires is dangerous, and people don’t regularly check their tire pressure. My car will not exceed a certain speed if TPMS is malfunctioning.

Conveniently it cost around $200 every 5-7 years to replace all 4.

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Post by bdavbdav »

thorbutt wrote: post #122
appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

Most OEM infotainment sucks, and it's taken a while for things to improve. I'd be willing to say your older car has a resistive touchscreen and physically couldn't support multitouch CarPlay is definitely an improvement if you're comparing it to something like Ford Sync for example

My car supports multitouch in factory nav but not CarPlay (24 plate VAG).

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Post by xstas1 »

MBCook wrote: post #141
danielheath wrote: post #72

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I mean, "no microprocessor" means no engine designed in the past 30 years, because the fuel pump needs one. "No antenna/modem I can't readily remove" might be _slightly_ more achievable.

50, as another commenter pointed out.

That was the first such car. Even though the automatic transmission was invented a long time ago, new cars are still made with manual ones

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Post by bdavbdav »

I use CarPlay all the time in my car and love it.

I rent quite a lot of cars. I’d rather CarPlay was taken from my car and left in all the rental cars than the other way around.

The car manufacturers are awful with their interface design, and being able to get into a new car at 9pm in the dark, and have a familiar interface while navigating some unknown city is invaluable. Consistency is safety and comfort in this situation.

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