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CarPlay Is Additive

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by stronglikedan »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

Some still have knobs. My mom's caddy has knobs in front of the armrest that control everything, so the touchscreen is optional but works just as well for those that want it.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by kemayo »

numpad0 wrote: post #71
rootusrootus wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

CarPlay Ultra takes over the infotainment as well as the dash displays. The author is correct. In cars that support CarPlay Ultra, the dash screens are just additional infotainment screens that default to gauge display.

And I'm saying zero cars support CarPlay Ultra because that's not how cars work. The dash screens cannot be made into just additional infotainment screens because the infotainment is explicitly architected as an external device to the car. What I've been saying is that the infotainment is external to the car, not significantly more connected and integrated than the spare tire, and that everyone needs to understand th…

Here's an explanation of CarPlay Ultra, which really is the phone driving your dash and instrumentation: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/carplay-ultra-the-nex...

There's only a couple of Aston Martin cars that support it, but there's supposed to be more coming. See: https://www.stuff.tv/features/apple-carplay-ultra-compatibil...

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by bluGill »

mayoff wrote: post #7

I’m with Casey on this: I will not buy a car without CarPlay. Of course, I haven’t bought a car since 2013. That one is a Tesla Model S and I think its UI is pretty decent for maps and playing audio, but I have rented enough cars since then to know that I would much prefer CarPlay support. If I had to replace my car today, I’d probably buy a Volvo EX90, which is the electric version of the XC90 Casey talks about.

Rentals it is more important. Your own car doing the one time setup every few years is no problem but when it is a rental you don't want to take that time.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by rjrjrjrj »

faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

Agreed. Extremely important on rental cars.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by arikrahman »

faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by bluGill »

outside1234 wrote: post #124

I am also in this camp. As soon as GM announced they weren’t going to support CarPlay, I scratched GM off of the list. Ford Mach E it was then.

I thought I would be okay and bought a GM. I regret it because of the lack of android auto.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by al_borland »

intrasight wrote: post #99
varenc wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carplay isn't about entertainment for me. It's just a vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.

I do see the maps - on my phone. What does seeing them somewhere else add? It seems completely redundant to me.

The bigger screen is nice. The integration is also nice. I can push a button on my steering wheel to activate Siri to tell it where to go. Music controls on the wheel also pass through to CarPaly. I have a low res auxiliary screen to display added data (oil temp, weather, etc) and the music option will display music track data from CarPlay as well.

So instead of trying to look at a tiny screen that’s clipped onto an air vent, I can use the screens and integrated controls, keeping my hands on the wheel and my eyes more in the road.

Also, the biggest battery drain is having the screen on. CarPlay allows me to have the screen on the phone off while still accessing all the data. With a wireless adapter, I can also leave the phone in my pocket, so I don’t need to set it up every time I get in the car or remember to grab it when getting out. So it feels more like the native experience of using the car.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by bluGill »

MBCook wrote: post #24
cyberax wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They want software subscription income. It's as simple as that.

Yep. Subscriptions and incentives. Every car I have purchased has satellite radio factory installed. And each time SiriusXM will not shut up about trying to get me to sign up. Over and over. It takes years before they give up. I don’t want it. So why is it in the car? Because they pay Ford and Honda and everyone else to put it there. Why did they both have Spotify? And iHeartRadio? Who even uses that? All sorts of ot…

They want my money. After the car payment I don't have money leftover for another subscription. Use my phone subscription, that is what I'm paying for for.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by al_borland »

cyberax wrote: post #13
tedd4u wrote: post #2

I hesitate to propose ulterior motives, but given there have been several seemingly obtuse objections to projection from Rivian, perhaps the CEO is concerned that, if Rivian supports projection, it will harm the perception of the value of their software stack? Related, I think they licensed their stack to VW.

They want software subscription income. It's as simple as that.

And your data. Auto makers love selling user data.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by al_borland »

bluGill wrote: post #136
outside1234 wrote: post #124

I am also in this camp. As soon as GM announced they weren’t going to support CarPlay, I scratched GM off of the list. Ford Mach E it was then.

I thought I would be okay and bought a GM. I regret it because of the lack of android auto.

I hope you made your dissatisfaction known. Otherwise I’m sure they see your purchase as a success, validating your decision. Make sure they know you’ll never by another GM car.
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