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Post by bluGill »

thorbutt wrote: post #102
numpad0 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What regulators and the industry should have done was to devise a touch-over-HDMI protocol, so that CarPlay can be deprecated and its successor sectioned off as they like. That was IMO the root cause of this problem.

This wouldn't be a solution to the argument in the article: Rivian and Tesla don't want to support phones projecting to infotainment As it is, CarPlay is implemented as a h264 video stream which receives touch, microphone, and metadata from the vehicle, the protocol is fine albeit proprietary

As a owner of a GM without android auto, never again. Everything is on my phone but I can't safely access it while driving. Also can't legally because my state makes using the phone while driving illegal (for good reason. I suspect most states don't allow it)

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Post by thorbutt »

appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

Most OEM infotainment sucks, and it's taken a while for things to improve. I'd be willing to say your older car has a resistive touchscreen and physically couldn't support multitouch

CarPlay is definitely an improvement if you're comparing it to something like Ford Sync for example

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Post by jackvalentine »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

I bought a BYD that is as close to that as I could.

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Post by doug_durham »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
faitswulff wrote: post #104

Surprised no one's mentioned it so far, but CarPlay / Android Auto aren't just features, they're consistency . Across makes, models, years. I know what I'm getting when I connect my phone - and if anyone uses my car with their own device, they get their own dashboard, as well. One interesting use case I saw was a couple where one used a left-to-right interface and the other a right-to-left UI. CarPlay makes this easy…

I would prefer knobs and buttons over a screen flow in either direction, but no modern car caters to this anymore.

My Hyundai Ioniq 5 has Car Play and knobs and buttons. It's not either or.

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Post by al_borland »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #103
varenc wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carplay isn't about entertainment for me. It's just a vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.

I have a beater subie (2018). It has CarPlay (fairly basic variant). It also has very few touchscreens, which I like. I could easily afford better, but have little interest in doing so. It’s low miles, paid for, handles well in the snow, and is in decent shape. A car gets me from Point A to Point B, and I want it to do so reliably and safely. I couldn’t care any less, what people think of me. Life’s too short. I also…

That’s the great thing about CarPlay it makes the usually junk infotainment system in cars (especially older ones) irrelevant, so they still seem modern.

For a budget car, I’d be perfectly happy if they had a screen for CarPlay/Android Auto that didn’t do anything else if a phone wasn’t connected. I think this makes a lot of sense as a cost cutting measure. Maybe it would just be used for the mandated backup camera.

I also love it for rental cars. I can get in any rental, and instead of having to learn my way around or figure out a Garmin add-on, CarPlay can make the navigation and music instantly familiar with all the data I need.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by cavisne »

3lpsy wrote: post #68

Maybe it’s cause I’ve never actually used it, but I really only care about a stable / well supported Bluetooth connection. I have a holder for my phone for when I use GPS and basically never interact with it directly after it’s set. Only real interactions are media controls via the steering wheel. The only use cases I can see car play helping with are those who take a lot of calls/texts in their car while driving and…

For me it’s about the waste. Engineers have taken the time to build a screen into the car with a good viewing angle, that works well with glare, doesn’t obstruct the drivers view.

Then the software side just makes the whole thing useless with a terrible UX that will never be updated.

CarPlay is a great solution because the non safety critical stuff (music, navigation) gets offloaded to a competent software company.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Post by appden »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #101
appden wrote: post #25

I’m fully bought into the Apple ecosystem, and I’ve had Teslas for 8 years and we currently also have car that supports CarPlay. The CarPlay interface is overall far inferior, especially with navigation. First of all, searching for destinations is terrible on CarPlay compared to Tesla! Even worse, Apple didn’t even add multi-touch support to CarPlay until iOS 26, and the vast majority of cars (including ours) don’t s…

> The final major downside is having to switch apps out of navigation to control music then switch back, But... you don't. Tapping on the home button once more or swiping to the right on the app page reveals the home screen which has navigation and music together: https://devimages-cdn.apple.com/wwdc-services/images/D35E0E8... https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/wgH6RZrtKkuAQkJUjfWW8V.jpg It even adapts to vertical scr…

Our CarPlay car has a small screen, so I prefer to keep navigation full screen most of the time. In split mode, it’s way too tiny for me, but I occasionally leave it there if I know my way around anyways. It’s definitely not a well designed experience.

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Post by aetch »

intrasight wrote: post #99
varenc wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carplay isn't about entertainment for me. It's just a vastly superior and convenient way to view the same map you can see on your iPhone.

I do see the maps - on my phone. What does seeing them somewhere else add? It seems completely redundant to me.

I’d rather have the map shown on the headunit screen rather than have the phone screen next to a larger but unused headunit screen.

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Post by bitmasher9 »

bhhaskin wrote: post #57
MBCook wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since then GM has dropped CarPlay. Rivian has appeared following Tesla and refusing to support it. And I thought there were some other existing manufacturer who was either getting rid of it or thinking about it. Basically despite the popularity the market seems to be moving against it slowly. And the more those cars succeed the more other auto makers will be willing to follow.

It's not that the market is moving away, but more like car companies realized if they want to sell monthly subscriptions in the future, they need to own the software.

The car companies need to stay in their lanes on this one. You’re risking selling a >$40k piece of hardware that requires professional service every six months in order to sell me $240/yr in software subscriptions.
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