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Hold on. Some people and institutions in the US are massively benefitting from what other Americans gave and are giving to the world. What they sometimes have been forced to give.
I don't think I implied they aren't, care to elaborate?
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You don't even know how good you have it. With incentives like this what company would make anything open in the future? You're punishing them for it. They're gonna make it like iOS precisely because of rulings like this.
> You don't even know how good you have it ie Quit complaining about the abuse you know about or there might be more of it.
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More like an ATM. Need some money? Let an American tech company operate with no issue for years and then one day "whoa we checked and you've been violating for years. Who knew? That'll be five billion Euros please."
>That'll be five billion Euros please." feel free to pull out of the market, if you dislike the rules. Google pulled out of China for instance.
> Europe’s top court has upheld Google’s fine of around 4.1 billion euros ($4.67 billion) over alleged anti-competitive practices. If they lost the case, and the appeal was dismissed, what is ‘alleged’ about it?
Of course, since there are lots of ways to describe things in bad faith without ever breaking that rule, it can ring hollow once you lose trust...
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There was a very real barrier to building tech companies. We couldn't listen to Spotify at work during the time people seriously called Berlin the "SV of Europe" (our office was in the neighborhood called "SV Backyard"). Why? We didn't have enough bandwidth, and the wait time for fiber was measured in years.
I remember 2008 very differently, was this a very localized Berlin problem?
Even in 2019, some coworkers were complaining that the best offer from their landline company (in one of the small villages just outside the Berlin city limits) was dialup.
Berlin's reputation post reunification has been "poor but sexy".
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> More like several decades and 100s of billions of euros which nobody is going to pay And now you know where that $4.7B fine will be spent. Why spend your own money when you can spend someone else’s?
> Why spend your own money when you can spend someone else’s? Funny you would say that in defence of giant mega-corporations, externalising huge chunks of the cost they generate to the rest of the world. OpenAI decided to run the largest social experiment humanity ever undertook without asking any of us. Microsoft is powering up old nuclear power plants to cover for their AI data center consumption. Apple is manufact…
It is funny because that's not what I was saying. At. All.
The reply was a reply to the question of why EU countries just hired US based companies instead of developing their own. The response to that was that it would cost too much money "100s of billions of euros". Now the EU is coming up with their own versions of things like Office and what not. I was merely suggesting that they have found a way to offset that "100s of billions of euros" by fining companies billions of euros.
I feel dumb having to explain it.
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> More like several decades and 100s of billions of euros which nobody is going to pay And now you know where that $4.7B fine will be spent. Why spend your own money when you can spend someone else’s?
It isn't Google's money if they wrongfully profited it, and are fined. It belongs to the victims. The government of the victims will invest it in making the victims less dependent on the perpetrator? Well played.
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If only this was applied evenly. Why is every Samsung/LG/literally every non-Pixel device full of uninstallable crapware?
You mean un-uninstallable crapware? This has at least a technical reason: Preloaded apps are part of the read-only system image and cannot be removed. "Disabling" should be equivalent, though. It's not just preloaded apps, though. A few months ago I prepared a Lenovo tablet for an elderly friend, and if I had just tapped through the OOBE wizard (which presented pages upon pages of optional crapware) without reading,…