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Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, looks like some history rewriting. 9 years ago was 2017-- and by that time Google was already doing sleazy SEO shit, scanning peoples emails to who them ads, trying to make ads seem like general search results etc etc Google was *exactly* this company it is today

The "Don't be evil" motto was diluted in 2015 when alphabet was formed, and taken down in 2018, so yeah, things were brewing from before.

And it was just something that some guy said in a meeting

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

#122
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Don't be evil" motto was diluted in 2015 when alphabet was formed, and taken down in 2018, so yeah, things were brewing from before.

The author of this article disagrees: > “Don’t Be Evil” wasn’t just a slogan of often-referenced Googliness—it was a north star for teams making hard calls. It definitely counts for something that at least one senior leader felt the slogan was relevant for decision making.

The author is not cynical enough.

Do you going around telling people how virtuous you are? No, good people just try and be good.

The slogan was a red flag right from the start.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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post #83

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identity pol: "people organize and advocate based on shared demographic characteristics" What in this post is possibly identity politics? It sounds like personal ethics to me. I don't appreciate identity politics, and when you muddy the term with having a spine and anything you don't like you make it harder to debate the actual problems the term is normally associated with.

The person youre replying to also employed the term TDS in recent comments, which I believe refers to Trump Devotion Syndrome.

Muddying waters and making debate impossible are his goals. He hoped to antagonize everyone with his trigger word.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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google used to be cool

They should have stuck with the charging money model instead of giving away services for the cost of attention. There is a deep irony in Google becoming one of the greatest corporations ever on the back of an ostensibly socialist utopia business model. Everyone on earth with an internet connection can use the full suite of google products (which pretty much every person reading this chooses to use daily) without havi…

You know, Google hinders competition. They are so powerful, they dictate the rules. If you do not play by Google's rules and align to their algorithms, you are allowed to consume, but not to provide. You have to pay them and others to even gain a small amount of visibility in their search results. The Google and YouTube algos are unfair as f*ck and promote the already successful.

Your comment in itself is deeply ironic.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

#127

Why post a Google docs copy of the original article? https://www.mayrhofer.eu.org/post/leaving-google/

it's typical for googlers to leave a note like this in gdocs when they leave As thats the standard at google. i imagine its the original and google hasnt decided to turn off public sharing on it

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

#128
post #62

> Google was a different company 9 years ago. No it wasn’t.

actually it was. they were no angels. but a majority of devs wanted to do good. now everyone wanta to make a quick buck no matter what.

im surprised dave is still there too. probably can't let it go...

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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post #3

moral clarity usually sharpens the moment the last RSU hits the brokerage account

Sometimes. Sometimes not. I left with more than 4 million in RSU's left. Pretty much any Googler who leaves will be leaving lots of money on the table. This is because they are usually 3/4 year grants, so it's pretty much impossible to leave without lots of unvested RSU. There are some 1 year grants, but those are much more uncommon (~1%)

same I left with approx that amount and when stock was still fairly low compared to today, so left life changing money. no ragrets lol.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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BIT of a broad brush there but we can take the critique. While we vote for our leaders we don’t exactly get a say or have awareness of what sort of covert bullshit some over eager Yale graduate is doing as a top secret operation.

You're free to protest and do many other things besides voting
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