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Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by vrganj »

innagadadavida wrote: post #97

> When Google offered me the job of Director of Android Platform Security in 2017, it was impossible to refuse. Yes, Trump was already president—my family and I had qualms—but he seemed contained, even ineffective. Why make this about trump and politics. It’s just a job.

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by WarmWash »

robotmaxtron wrote: post #8

google used to be cool

They should have stuck with the charging money model instead of giving away services for the cost of attention.

There is a deep irony in Google becoming one of the greatest corporations ever on the back of an ostensibly socialist utopia business model. Everyone on earth with an internet connection can use the full suite of google products (which pretty much every person reading this chooses to use daily) without having social class be a limiting factor like it is with paid services. Litterally anyone with internet can access and use the same youtube and office suite that a billionaire on his yacht is using (perhaps the billionaire has yt premium though).

And here we are, 25 years later, and google is considered one of the most evil and malicious corporations, despite most people never paying them anything (and a large subset of those never loading one of their ads either).

From a high level POV, its an incredibly perplexing outcome. Compared to someone like Apple, who charges money, has zero openness, and prices to align with first world upper class, still being largely beloved.

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Post by reducesuffering »

nla wrote: post #83

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identity pol: "people organize and advocate based on shared demographic characteristics"

What in this post is possibly identity politics? It sounds like personal ethics to me. I don't appreciate identity politics, and when you muddy the term with having a spine and anything you don't like you make it harder to debate the actual problems the term is normally associated with.

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Post by ejoso »

boringg wrote: post #89
ejoso wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It remains privileged. I have my golden handcuffs too, probably most on HN do. That doesn’t change the reality expressed.

But does it matter that it is or isn't privileged? Thats the root question. What are you trying to highlight? I have to assume you aren't trying to shame someone for moral opinion about talking about facts on the table - as that does 0 for any kind of public discourse.

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by kelipso »

shantnutiwari wrote: post #67
bix6 wrote: post #62

> Google was a different company 9 years ago. No it wasn’t.

yeah, looks like some history rewriting. 9 years ago was 2017-- and by that time Google was already doing sleazy SEO shit, scanning peoples emails to who them ads, trying to make ads seem like general search results etc etc Google was *exactly* this company it is today

That’s quite a bit different from helping to kill people.

Let’s not lump every ethical issue into one. And not conflate SEO sleaze with aiding murder.

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