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Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by colordrops »

DannyBee wrote: post #17
jnaina wrote: post #3

moral clarity usually sharpens the moment the last RSU hits the brokerage account

Sometimes. Sometimes not. I left with more than 4 million in RSU's left. Pretty much any Googler who leaves will be leaving lots of money on the table. This is because they are usually 3/4 year grants, so it's pretty much impossible to leave without lots of unvested RSU. There are some 1 year grants, but those are much more uncommon (~1%)

This must have been a long time ago? Because that's leaving over a billion dollars "on the table" at the current price.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by w4der »

shantnutiwari wrote: post #67
bix6 wrote: post #62

> Google was a different company 9 years ago. No it wasn’t.

yeah, looks like some history rewriting. 9 years ago was 2017-- and by that time Google was already doing sleazy SEO shit, scanning peoples emails to who them ads, trying to make ads seem like general search results etc etc Google was *exactly* this company it is today

The "Don't be evil" motto was diluted in 2015 when alphabet was formed, and taken down in 2018, so yeah, things were brewing from before.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by assimpleaspossi »

cyanydeez wrote: post #44
assimpleaspossi wrote: post #18

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everyone _works for someone else_, it's entirely about what the structure of that relationship is. You don't make your own food do you? Build your own car? Make your own git repos? Seems like you might want to have a better view about who you work for.

Your comment has nothing to do with what I wrote.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

I came to Google via acquisition end of 2011 and left end of 2021. Google bought my employer so it could further cement its display ads monopoly. They never had a moral compass, they just wore one in a costume so that nobody would dig too closely into their business practices.

We got to wave pitchforks and ask tough questions at TGIF for a while, and march in pride parades under a Google banner, and get fed nice treats and the like but under it all was still just an old fashioned railway monopoly.

A huge fire hose of cash that let it play in all sorts of domains and espouse some vaguely California Ideology liberal/libertarian ideals while doing it.

But the moment that monopoly came under threat and the moment they felt they no longer needed the costume, it came off.

Google never had a moral compass. Anybody who thought it did was naive. It's not possible for a corporate entity to have one.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by BikiniPrince »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #69
jnaina wrote: post #3

moral clarity usually sharpens the moment the last RSU hits the brokerage account

Exactly. I am so tired of reading these stupid "why I am leaving my job after making millions". One thing I can say about myself: I work for money. That's it. Lots of things the companies that I work for (normally 25,000+ employees) do immoral and unethical things. Still, I stay, earn money, and I don't write stupid fucking self-righteous blog posts after I leave. At this point, blog posts like this look like an "own…

Also his complaints about morale compass failure are largely activism goals. Hard to make money when you waste it.

I tell employers I’m clearly a mercenary and I am only here for the money. I do great work, but I’ve been compensated well.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Post by skeeter2020 »

RHSeeger wrote: post #34
ejoso wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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And yet it directly speaks to the comment it was replying to. It makes the point that RSUs are generally multi-year; so if you're getting them with _any_ frequency, you never get to the point of "the last RSU vests".

almost like it's by design!
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