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Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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The harness is super important, what tools are available and the system prompts vary from harness to harness. Anthropic seems to have a modest lead on their harness and models, so it’s a best-of-both-worlds scenario. > I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes It’s probably the exact same model, but the tools and the prompts around it are worse, so you get worse results.

So if you use Claude via Copilot in Zed... You use Zed's harness, I think? What does Copilot do, at that point?

It’s providing the inference of Anthropic models

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

Same ,I switched to cursor. I told it how to invoke msbuild and it can edit away without needing a native Visual studio plugin.. no problems at all. Target language c++

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

GitHub Copilot costs have ballooned in recent week, what once took $100 requires $300. I like using Claude with VS Code through Copilot and I feel it’s given me much better code, that I can control the quality. It’s much more transparent than Claude Code. It’s open source but and the IDE interface gives so many more features to have you context and control over whats generated. The increase in cost isn’t purely due to their price increases but also the Opus models agents use more tokens. So I’ve moved to Claude Code and I’m happily still using Opus 4.6. Fable and 4.7 seem to do much larger units of work, go off on tangents and make assumptions that frequently results in slop.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The harness is super important, what tools are available and the system prompts vary from harness to harness. Anthropic seems to have a modest lead on their harness and models, so it’s a best-of-both-worlds scenario. > I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes It’s probably the exact same model, but the tools and the prompts around it are worse, so you get worse results.

So if you use Claude via Copilot in Zed... You use Zed's harness, I think? What does Copilot do, at that point?

I believe you are using https://github.com/github/copilot-cli or potentially this https://github.com/github/copilot-language-server-release#ag... via the Agent Client Protocol https://github.com/agentclientprotocol/agent-client-protocol which means you are indeed using Copilot's harness

ACP is just a standard that bridges harnesses easily into IDEs, Text Editors, or whatever consumes it (I wrote a TUI that consumes them)

The registry for all the agents (tool harnesses) is here https://github.com/agentclientprotocol/registry if you ever are curious to what Zed or IntelliJ are really hooking into

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Is GitHub Copilot the best positioned platform for enterprise? They support Claude, GPT, Gemini, and now even open weight models. Larger orgs are paying at API rates anyway so it costs just as much as anywhere else. They have a pretty good agent CLI and SDK, and now a desktop app. They have hosted agents, and you can run their 'Agentic Workflows' in CI. Has their reputation tanked so much that the alternatives get al…

We just cancelled everyone's plans and rolled liteLLM out internally. We kept it for the insanely cheap tokens, but now that they've switched to the new pricing, they're just like openrouter, just with far fewer models.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6").

Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claude Code. With copilot we were hitting a few dollars of extra spend over the included credits in April and May, then in June we started chewing through the monthly budget every 2-3 days.

Just a completely insane price hike from the customer's perspective, I don't know what MS were thinking there.

Even if that is the price they need to be sustainable they should have waited until the competition changed their prices first. I wouldn't be surprised if Copilot lost 50% or more of their customer base last month.

Eventually this could be where all the major players set their prices, so the thought occurs to me that nations should run some form of "public access AI", just like they did for TV. Use the free open models and use tax money to finance a few datacenters. Geo-lock the use and set strict throttles to manage load, but let school children and citizens use that AI freely otherwise.

If Copilot's pricing is the level for all AI in a few years, only the unicorn companies can afford to use them, and everybody else has no chance of competing with a company that can use AI.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Looks like it’s the same price on Fireworks AI? https://fireworks.ai/blog/kimi-k2p7-code I don’t know much about them but they did a deal with Microsoft in March: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-fireworks...

https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/ai-models/model...

Says that they are run by Moonshot

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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post #46

I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claud…

The price hike was insane. My $dayjob is moving away from Copilot and into Claude Code subscriptions. In parallel we are testing AWS bedrock and Deepinfra for open weight models in preparation for when CC inevitably stops being such a good deal and aligns with actual token cost. Fun times.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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post #49
post #46

I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claud…

The price hike was insane. My $dayjob is moving away from Copilot and into Claude Code subscriptions. In parallel we are testing AWS bedrock and Deepinfra for open weight models in preparation for when CC inevitably stops being such a good deal and aligns with actual token cost. Fun times.

I had to do the same. I expect everything will go token pricing, and at that point a LOT of small/mid businesses will drastically change how they use code.

I've swapped to the 20x Claude plan for a month or two to knock out two ideas I need to get it MVP - expecting Claude to go token priced soon.

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