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Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

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Post by nsoonhui »

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage.

However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Code and Codex and have never looked back. Yes, tokens on Claude Code and Codex are subsidized heavily, but let's just enjoy when good things last.

I do feel there is a difference between using Claude via Copilot versus using Claude directly in Claude Code. I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#23

Post by arikrahman »

nsoonhui wrote: post #21

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

I had a similar experience moving away from Copilot within Zed. Now using the reasonix harness for Deepseek that makes cache hits almost free. And that's with unsubsidized American providers like Digital Ocean or Cloudflare.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#24

Post by altmanaltman »

nsoonhui wrote: post #21

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

My copilot quota finished in maybe 2-3 prompts with claude 4.8 opus. i was expecting it to suck but not this bad. it was good while it lasted though

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#26

Post by kingstnap »

Input: $0.95

Cache hit (most important): $0.19

Output: $4.00

This is the same as how much Moonshot charges for it, and it puts it at roughly the price of GPT 5.4 mini, not a bad option.

For some context here is a stupid prompt that wastes tokens: "Play a game of tic tac toe against yourself on a 5x5 board, you need 5 in a row to win."

It costs $0.006 on Kimi K2.7, and you get to see the whole raw reasoning trace.

GPT-5.4 mini costs $0.016 and its summarized.

And in case you are wondering both play incredibly stupidly.

Kimi:

      A   B   C   D   E
  1   .   .   .   .   .
  2   .   .   .   .   .
  3   X   X   X   X   X
  4   .   O   O   O   O
  5   .   .   .   .   .
GPT 5.4 mini:

  1: X X X X X
  2: O O . . .
  3: . . O . .
  4: . . . O .
  5: . . . . O

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#27

Post by k__ »

arikrahman wrote: post #23
nsoonhui wrote: post #21

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

I had a similar experience moving away from Copilot within Zed. Now using the reasonix harness for Deepseek that makes cache hits almost free. And that's with unsubsidized American providers like Digital Ocean or Cloudflare.

Nice.

I paid $6 yesterday for DeepSeek V4 Flash on OpenRouter. That's like $120 dollar for a month, and it's not even a good model.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#28

Post by asimovDev »

kingstnap wrote: post #26

Input: $0.95 Cache hit (most important): $0.19 Output: $4.00 This is the same as how much Moonshot charges for it, and it puts it at roughly the price of GPT 5.4 mini, not a bad option. For some context here is a stupid prompt that wastes tokens: "Play a game of tic tac toe against yourself on a 5x5 board, you need 5 in a row to win." It costs $0.006 on Kimi K2.7, and you get to see the whole raw reasoning trace. GPT…

when i will be extremely bored, I think I will make two models play chess against each other. I bet there's a chess benchmark / llm tournament already somewhere

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#29

Post by taspeotis »

nsoonhui wrote: post #21

I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…

The harness is super important, what tools are available and the system prompts vary from harness to harness.

Anthropic seems to have a modest lead on their harness and models, so it’s a best-of-both-worlds scenario.

> I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes

It’s probably the exact same model, but the tools and the prompts around it are worse, so you get worse results.

Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot

#30

Post by kingstnap »

kingstnap wrote: post #26

Input: $0.95 Cache hit (most important): $0.19 Output: $4.00 This is the same as how much Moonshot charges for it, and it puts it at roughly the price of GPT 5.4 mini, not a bad option. For some context here is a stupid prompt that wastes tokens: "Play a game of tic tac toe against yourself on a 5x5 board, you need 5 in a row to win." It costs $0.006 on Kimi K2.7, and you get to see the whole raw reasoning trace. GPT…

Btw if anyone is wondering, GPT 5.5 does the same garbage as 5.4 mini for 4 times the cost.

Fable manages to make a reasonable game, at a cost of 40 cents.

  X X O O O
  O O X X X
  X X X O O
  X O O X O
  X O X X O
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