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The harness is super important, what tools are available and the system prompts vary from harness to harness. Anthropic seems to have a modest lead on their harness and models, so it’s a best-of-both-worlds scenario. > I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes It’s probably the exact same model, but the tools and the prompts around it are worse, so you get worse results.
So if you use Claude via Copilot in Zed... You use Zed's harness, I think? What does Copilot do, at that point?
Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
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Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#42I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#43I used GitHub Copilot for my VS 2026 development and switched between ChatGPT and Claude. That was before I discovered Claude Code and the Codex app. Copilot was OK for my purposes, and the USD 10 per month fee was enough for my usage. However, last month they introduced a new pricing model ( I know the old pricing was not sustainable), and my USD 10 was exhausted within days. Because of that, I switched to Claude Co…
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
The harness is super important, what tools are available and the system prompts vary from harness to harness. Anthropic seems to have a modest lead on their harness and models, so it’s a best-of-both-worlds scenario. > I'm not sure what Microsoft is doing behind the scenes It’s probably the exact same model, but the tools and the prompts around it are worse, so you get worse results.
So if you use Claude via Copilot in Zed... You use Zed's harness, I think? What does Copilot do, at that point?
ACP is just a standard that bridges harnesses easily into IDEs, Text Editors, or whatever consumes it (I wrote a TUI that consumes them)
The registry for all the agents (tool harnesses) is here https://github.com/agentclientprotocol/registry if you ever are curious to what Zed or IntelliJ are really hooking into
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#45Is GitHub Copilot the best positioned platform for enterprise? They support Claude, GPT, Gemini, and now even open weight models. Larger orgs are paying at API rates anyway so it costs just as much as anywhere else. They have a pretty good agent CLI and SDK, and now a desktop app. They have hosted agents, and you can run their 'Agentic Workflows' in CI. Has their reputation tanked so much that the alternatives get al…
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#46Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claude Code. With copilot we were hitting a few dollars of extra spend over the included credits in April and May, then in June we started chewing through the monthly budget every 2-3 days.
Just a completely insane price hike from the customer's perspective, I don't know what MS were thinking there.
Even if that is the price they need to be sustainable they should have waited until the competition changed their prices first. I wouldn't be surprised if Copilot lost 50% or more of their customer base last month.
Eventually this could be where all the major players set their prices, so the thought occurs to me that nations should run some form of "public access AI", just like they did for TV. Use the free open models and use tax money to finance a few datacenters. Geo-lock the use and set strict throttles to manage load, but let school children and citizens use that AI freely otherwise.
If Copilot's pricing is the level for all AI in a few years, only the unicorn companies can afford to use them, and everybody else has no chance of competing with a company that can use AI.
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#47Looks like it’s the same price on Fireworks AI? https://fireworks.ai/blog/kimi-k2p7-code I don’t know much about them but they did a deal with Microsoft in March: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/introducing-fireworks...
Says that they are run by Moonshot
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#48Where is the inference running?
They are run by Moonshot itself, so probably china
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#49I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claud…
Re: Kimi K2.7 Code is generally available in GitHub Copilot
#50I am a huge fan of Copilot CLI. It just feels so logical and low-friction to use compared to Claude Code. Having the ability to juggle various models at will is really nice too. ("Plan this using Opus 4.6, let GPT 5.4 verify the plan and give feedback before implementing with Sonnet 4.6"). Unfortunately the June pricing change for Copilot forced me personally as well as my entire department at work to switch to Claud…
The price hike was insane. My $dayjob is moving away from Copilot and into Claude Code subscriptions. In parallel we are testing AWS bedrock and Deepinfra for open weight models in preparation for when CC inevitably stops being such a good deal and aligns with actual token cost. Fun times.
I've swapped to the 20x Claude plan for a month or two to knock out two ideas I need to get it MVP - expecting Claude to go token priced soon.