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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by benatkin » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:37 PM UTC

fwip wrote: post #74

LaurensBER wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.

Wireshark would catch that easy-peasy.

The request would need to be done from their service, so as not to expose the API key, and because it just makes sense. They could probably directly proxy it and Wireshark couldn't catch it, due to everything being HTTPS. But people could probably catch it by decompiling, so it would make more sense to have the server make the request as part of a GLM request. Not that I think this is plausible - I'm not sure.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by estearum » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:38 PM UTC

LtWorf wrote: post #140

estearum wrote: post #125

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lmfao You know you're sitting here on the open Internet complaining about the US government with literally zero fear of any repercussions in any sense whatsoever? You should go to an actual authoritarian country and just ask someone their opinion on their government. The difference between flippant, hyperbolic complaining (you) and someone who will actually glance over their shoulder and totally clam up in response t…

Perhaps you have not heard of Francesca Albanese? USA government does repercussions, severe ones.

Wow, is GP afraid of being sanctioned?

Big if true, but I doubt it.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by NamlchakKhandro » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:39 PM UTC

_pdp_ wrote: post #145

seizethecheese wrote: post #11

I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

I am not surprised it is not open source. These harnesses are hard to build - they are not just wrappers - and often they contain business logic that is not suitable for public distribution for all kinds of reasons.

hard? wut lol....

no. they. are. not.

Some people are just terrible at it.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by JSR_FDED » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:40 PM UTC

saghm wrote: post #56

seizethecheese wrote: post #11

I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

Given that there's such severe concern being expressed by Anthropic about Claude being distilled, and the idea that the harness is part of the the moat, it doesn't seem super surprising that the other side of that would try to also make it harder for them to tell how well they're doing and what their approach is.

Unlikely considering they’re publishing the Crown Jewels (GLM 5.2) as open weights.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by InvertedRhodium » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:45 PM UTC

binarymax wrote: post #95

andy99 wrote: post #86

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I’ve never had a refusal coding, and in some areas (AI red teaming specifically) I’ve found it quite good at recognizing and discussing “white hat” stuff that in the past I think would have got refusals. But when there was the Hantavirus thing a while back, I asked it if there was a vaccine under development and got a refusal immediately. I’ve had a few like that. It seems they’ve implemented really poor guardrails o…

Yeah, I’ve had Opus (and Fable) perform full security audits on my codebases that would run for 30mins. That’s what I think would have tripped it but went just fine.

Try using it as an agent to perform black box security testing on a live instance of your codebase (assuming it's a hosted service).

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by casion » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:45 PM UTC

aniviacat wrote: post #134

scotty79 wrote: post #99

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Funny, I think the same about Claude.

Didn't Claude Code pioneer this style of agent?

They said Claude, not Claude Code.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by NamlchakKhandro » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:46 PM UTC

For those that want something based on Pi Mono:

- https://igorwarzocha.github.io/howcode/

- https://github.com/ruuxi/stella

- https://www.pi-gui.com/

Not using Pi, but based on PI (no extensions possible)

- https://twotimespi.dev/

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by ranyume » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:49 PM UTC

cube00 wrote: post #82

It's impressive all these companies are getting away with "base usage allowance included" [1] or "standard limits" [2], layering the higher plans as a multiplier of that "base" but never disclosing what it is. I guess the base is whatever the profit margin needs to be this month. [1]: https://zcode.z.ai/en#:~:text=Base%20usage%20allowance%20inc... [2]: https://support.google.com/gemini/answer/16275805?hl=en#:~:t...

When running the app, it actually tells you what the base usages are, but the name of the plans are different from the page. It reads:

Start plan: 5 Million tokens a day (GLM-5.2 3M, GLM-5 Turbo 2M)

For individuals: (+150% quota) $18.00USD+ For individual developers with a dedicated Coding Plan quota.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by MarceloHenry » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:51 PM UTC

Is there a CLI version of it?

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by WhitneyLand » Wed, Jul 01, 2026, 10:52 PM UTC

What’s with the 3 subscription plans that are suggestive of being mapped to plans from Anthropic and Open AI?

Do they really correspond roughly? Seems like they’re trying to suggest a discount while still being worth a significant amount of monthly spend.