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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by teaspoon »

SwellJoe wrote: post #29
seizethecheese wrote: post #11

I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

I don't even know what I would do with a desktop app. I'm running these things in headless VMs, so I can run them with `--dangerously-skip-permissions` or whatever. I don't trust them, even without that flag, on my desktop/laptop.

Good desktop apps in this category can manage agents across any number of remote SSH hosts.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by binarymax »

InsideOutSanta wrote: post #34
owentbrown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From your experience, is it comparable to Claude Code with Opus 4.8? How does it feel? How do the two differ?

It's comparable, but not the same. For some tasks, it's better. Opus refuses tasks for me pretty regularly. GLM 5.2 has never refused a task. So for anything security-related or that touches on topics that trigger Opus's safety guardrails, I use GLM 5.2. OTOH, for anything related to UI design, I use Opus 4.8. It's much better at taking relatively vague descriptions of user interfaces and a mockup of a related UI and…

What kinds of tasks does Opus refuse? I’m a light daily user for the past 3 months and Opus has never refused a task for me.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by fwip »

LaurensBER wrote: post #38
seizethecheese wrote: post #11

I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.

Wireshark would catch that easy-peasy.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by anakaine »

embedding-shape wrote: post #67
bogdan wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? Or is it "trust me bro"?

Literally just FUD unless someone has code to point at.

Verbally minimising potential threats is not a valid approach to managing risk. We have seen mass misuse of tokens acquired through nefarious means to distill models and enhance training as a way of catching up recently, among other related issues. It is quite appropriate to wonder what else might be going on.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by simjnd »

Escapado wrote: post #54
maxloh wrote: post #51

I don't find a closed-source Chinese agent system trustworthy. It is essentially a black box with full user permissions, meaning you are just handing over your entire system to a Chinese-owned server. With OpenCode and its GLM provider, at least I can monitor which files were read, which were edited, and what commands were executed. Not to mention that Chinese national security laws legally obligate companies to coop…

I agree. I don't find the US competitors trustworthy either. I think open source is the way here.

Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by d3Xt3r »

qaz_plm wrote: post #63
d3Xt3r wrote: post #30

For GLM Coding Plan subscribers, quota consumed via Coding Plan for GLM-5.2 in ZCode is discounted by the coefficients below — the same usage draws down less quota, roughly 1.5x the effective allowance. Peak hours (14:00–18:00 daily) 3x -> 2x Off-peak (remaining 20 hours) 1x -> 0.67x I wonder whether that is referring to local time, or CST (UTC+8)?

Peak hours are 14:00–18:00 (UTC+8) https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview

Thanks. Those are some odd hours though, why would evening time be peak hours? Usually (in the western world anyway), 9AM - 12PM would be peak hours. Things normally slow down post-lunch, and be its slowest at close-of-business.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by maxloh »

toddmorey wrote: post #15

Does anyone use an agnostic TUI or harness for development tasks that can fairly seamlessly switch between providers? I'm wanting local context in the spirit of "here are 3 AI providers available, for coding tasks use this one... and for writing prose use this one... and for generating images use this one..." etc.

Also Goose from the Agentic AI Foundation (AAIF) (subsidy of the Linux Foundation).

https://goose-docs.ai/

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by estearum »

simjnd wrote: post #76
Escapado wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree. I don't find the US competitors trustworthy either. I think open source is the way here.

Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

If you think the US has an "abysmal" track record on this, what words would you use to describe China's track record?
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