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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.

Source? Or is it "trust me bro"?

"might" means pure speculation

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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If you think the US has an "abysmal" track record on this, what words would you use to describe China's track record?

also abysmal. two things can be bad at the same time

Yeah, but if you reach for the top shelf every time you need a word, you can't compare things anymore.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I agree. I don't find the US competitors trustworthy either. I think open source is the way here.

Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

China is still doing horrendous things to its population that the US stopped doing over 100 years ago. Not the same.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I agree. I don't find the US competitors trustworthy either. I think open source is the way here.

Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

It’s not no reason. At a fundamental level I don’t trust the companies any differently. But at a professional level, nobody is going to question my using Claude or OpenAI in a professional capacity - to work on customer projects, analyze their data, etc.

I also consider Microsoft to be the biggest industrial spy in the world, them and google both are no doubt mining everything you type into office / gsuite, all your emails, etc. But nobody bats an eye when you write a word doc about some sensitive matter.

If my customers thought I was feeding their data into a Chinese owned LLM API (which to be clear I’m not), I don’t think it would go over well, and I’d be exposed legally to all sorts of things.

So the reason is risk aversion and desire to participate in US / western commerce. One can debate the actual threat, but why would you ever risk sending your data to a processor perceived as dodgy?

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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What kinds of tasks does Opus refuse? I’m a light daily user for the past 3 months and Opus has never refused a task for me.

I’ve never had a refusal coding, and in some areas (AI red teaming specifically) I’ve found it quite good at recognizing and discussing “white hat” stuff that in the past I think would have got refusals. But when there was the Hantavirus thing a while back, I asked it if there was a vaccine under development and got a refusal immediately. I’ve had a few like that. It seems they’ve implemented really poor guardrails o…

Yeah, I’ve had Opus (and Fable) perform full security audits on my codebases that would run for 30mins. That’s what I think would have tripped it but went just fine.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

If you think the US has an "abysmal" track record on this, what words would you use to describe China's track record?

Both are abysmal, but as a US citizen bad behavior from Chinese corporations and government is vastly more limited in how negatively it can impact my life in a practical way than bad behavior from US corporations and government.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Thank you. It doesn't make sense to me how much people trust our companies so much more than Chinese ones for no reason. This country has an abysmal track record when it comes to respecting its citizen's rights or privacy. Propaganda working as intended I suppose.

If you think the US has an "abysmal" track record on this, what words would you use to describe China's track record?

"Abysmal", but that's beside the point.

Suppose a US citizen, residing and working in the US and never traveling to China, crosses The Powers That Be. Which Power is more likely to do worse things to said citizen? Pretty unlikely they'll be rendered to one of the illegal Chinese jails in Brooklyn, more likely they'll be sent to Gitmo or a black site.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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post #51

I don't find a closed-source Chinese agent system trustworthy. It is essentially a black box with full user permissions, meaning you are just handing over your entire system to a Chinese-owned server. With OpenCode and its GLM provider, at least I can monitor which files were read, which were edited, and what commands were executed. Not to mention that Chinese national security laws legally obligate companies to coop…

How's that different from Codex (gui app) or Claude?
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