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Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by wonderwonder »

amanaplanacanal wrote: post #110
bcjdjsndon wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We are destroying ecosystems so fast Definitely changing, I'm not so sure about destroying. Your house displaced an ecosystem so you could live there but I bet in your ethical system that's fine right? What a surprise

As they say, "there is no ethical consumption." I've done my part by not having any kids.

I could not imagine living with such a self hating attitude. Every day must be torture to wake up to. Why choose to live with this view of the world, I just don't get it. Life is beautiful. Children are incredible. I hope you break out of your self inflicted prison and truly embrace what the universe has given us.

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Post by wonderwonder »

sevenzero wrote: post #47
romx-cell wrote: post #42

We are destroying ecosystems so fast that there will be no frogs and we will regret it. The same with all the nature

We get what we deserve. We let the top 1% destroy our planet and also let them live the longest in their bunkers, while we deal with the repercussions of not having done enough. But I've noticed that folks on HN are very very fond of capitalism, so it's no point arguing against it on here and on the effects of wealth accumulation and greed.

The planet is fine friend. The cool thing about the relentless march of technology is that we will eventually fix anything we break along the way. There is no limit to what we can achieve. There is certainly nothing you can do about it so go outside, lie by the pool or the ocean, enjoy life.

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Post by beepbooptheory »

zarathustreal wrote: post #157
beepbooptheory wrote: post #147

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If its all just people trying to be different, why is it always the same refrains in the same way?

Because “trying” to be different and actually being different are not the same thing

But then isn't this framework unfalsifiable? Where do you draw the line without some kind of associated heuristic? If a sentiment can be reduced to a strive-to-differentiate whether it is actually a "hot take" or not, so to speak, then it just becomes pat dismissal of potentially any arbritrary thing right?

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Post by wolfi1 »

NetOpWibby wrote: post #165
sfifs wrote: post #152

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HaHa I was thinking just the same :-) For those unfamiliar with the reference, in Hitchikers guide to the galaxy series, Mice are projections of hyper intelligent extra terrestrial beings from a higher dimension who commission the creation of planet earth complete with fossils as a giant organic computer

WTF!! I should've kept reading the series as a kid, this would've blown my mind haha!

it's in the first book

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Post by dawnerd »

toraway wrote: post #161
tiffanyh wrote: post #39

To give more credit to this blog post, the NIH published findings on this same subject last year. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12710904/

OP submitted a Substack newsletter as a source with recent posts including such topics as vaccine “deaths” during COVID, their link to autism, and Fauci bioweapon conspiracy theories implicating the entire scientific establishment. With comments on the current post agreeing that the shadowy cabal will suppress yet another miracle treatment to keep for themselves, so the “goyim” can be sold poison.

It’s also just pretty obvious ai slop.

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #169
giwook wrote: post #104

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"Spoken like" was a phrase before Rick and Morty lol they didn't invent the English language.

But everyone started copying after they used it on that fuckin shite episode

Are you sure this isn't the frequency illusion? It's a line in Hannibal (2001).

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Post by klibertp »

6P58r3MXJSLi wrote: post #103
frellus wrote: post #72

I kid you not, there was a movie with Sean Connery called "Medicine Man" (1992) with this exact same theme. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104839/?ref_=fn_t_1 In it, Connery finds what looks to be a rare natural cure to all cancer in the Rain Forest (spoiler: not a frog, but equally as weird), and is literally battling the nearby deforesting and bulldozers. For a Sean Connery movie it was bizarre (As a young teen, I s…

I've seen the movie several times. In Italian, the title was translated simply as Mato Grosso, which makes it oddly geographically specific. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Connery definitely starred in even weirder movies. Have you seen Zardoz? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070948/ https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNmI2NjI2OWYtMzU5NS00...

> Have you seen Zardoz?

Oh, yes! Just once, but Connery, in just underpants and boots, battling some surreal head-shaped apparitions, is something I won't ever forget. I have no idea what the plot was about - but that's OK, because I had no idea about that either during or just after watching :D

A movie so bad it's kind of good - though second-hand embarrassment (at the performances, effects, plot, characters) was a bit hard to bear at points.

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Post by giwook »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #169
giwook wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Spoken like" was a phrase before Rick and Morty lol they didn't invent the English language.

But everyone started copying after they used it on that fuckin shite episode

Not everyone.

Re: Frog-derived gut bacterium eradicates tumors in mice

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Post by oofbey »

bcjdjsndon wrote: post #133
oofbey wrote: post #40

The blog is highly suspect, but the study is real. That said it’s not a big deal. Curing cancer in a mouse model is not at all uncommon in new therapies. Mouse models like this are vastly easier to treat than real world cancer for a bunch of reasons. Fully curing mice is the baseline for a treatment to even be considered for further evaluation. And even then very few therapies end up succeeding in humans - low single…

> Fully curing mice is the baseline for a treatment to even be considered for further evaluation If it never works as well if at all in humans, maybe mice are too different?

It’s not that. The tumors they create in mice are just really fragile compared to natural tumors. Natural tumors that actually cause problems have probably grown for years and learned to avoid immune responses. They’re not densely packed and easy to get into all the parts.

This kind of treatment triggers an immune response, which the model tumors have never had to fight before. So it’s just an easy target.

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Post by stanfordkid »

Wow amazing. I am very curious how the spider "learns" to do this technique, that it works, and to repeat it. Is this somehow encoded in the DNA of the spider? Clearly spiders don't rear their children or learn / communicate so it must be evolved and encoded somewhere in either the genes or the epigenetics. Nature is amazing.
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